We Rank The NINETEEN Dreamcast Launch Titles
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Hey. I'm Jerry.
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Hey. I'm Aaron. And this is Special Rehab.
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Hello, listeners. Welcome back to Retro Rehab. Hi. Hello. Listen.
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I'm here to Let's talk. Yeah. Aaron's here. I'm here. I'm Jerry.
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He's Aaron. Yeah. For Retro Rehab. We're in your ears. Maybe in your faces.
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I don't know. Who knows these days? Sometimes we get up in people's faces. Sometimes we all we get up all in the mirrors. Yeah.
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But regardless, we back. We back full swing. I apologize. My back decided to stop working. And sitting in a chair was a was a big deal, so I was not able to do that for a bit.
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But here we are. We're back. I'm medicated. This is retro rehab.
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It is your back getting any better, or is it still still poopy?
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No. It's good. It's, like, a lot better. I still get a little bit of pain, but it's not not even close to the amount of pain
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that I was in.
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I was in, like, real bad pain. Like, I mean, It was it was bad.
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Like, how many how many Mario oofs out of 10 would you have given it at at the at the worst?
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I'd say nine Mario moves out of 10. Okay.
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Yeah. That's that's a very Like, good
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just waking up was just, like like, every morning.
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As soon as you wake up, that's
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all that's all Karen could hear.
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Mhmm. It was bad. So glad that you're doing a lot better, man. It's great to
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have you back. It's good to be back. It's good to be back in the saddle. And I mean, we have a we have a a cool show today.
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Hope this will rehab.
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I think this will translate well into into the the podcast format as well, besides the, the YouTube format. But Mhmm. What we're gonna do today is, something that Aaron wanted to do and we decided to do this two hours ago. And I think it's gonna be really fun. We're gonna talk about a console that I feel like doesn't get enough love.
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Aaron, why don't you why don't you tell the fine listener folk what they can expect today?
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Well, people, we're gonna we're gonna do a tier list or a ranking or whatever of all the different launch titles for the Sega Dreamcast, a very short lived console. Saga's I almost said sagas. Sega's last console, May you rest in they're not Sega's not dead. Just their their hardware. Yep.
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That's what we're doing. We're ranking them.
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Yep. Gonna rank the shit out of these.
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Rank them. Full disclosure.
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I haven't played every one of these. I've played nearly all of these.
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You have?
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I've I've yeah. A lot of these I've done.
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I've played a pretty good majority of these. Maybe some I've, like, maybe just seen videos on. But, yeah, we'll we'll talk about when we get to them.
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I mean, some of these I haven't even seen videos or played, and I can tell you right now, I don't like them.
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That's fine. I've got YouTube pulled up, and I'll send you
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a link if we need to when we get to them. Alright. Well, let's let's get let's get the let's get the show on the road here, shall we? Shall we bring it the road. Yeah.
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Let's fucking throw it down on the ground and roll around on it a little bit.
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Yeah. Why don't
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we tell them about the about the
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different tiers? What are the different tiers on your list?
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Alright. Alright. So here we go. Also, we're not we're not gonna do a new and exciting in the world of retro today because, well, we this is kind of an impromptu episode. I wasn't, scheduling myself back on the show for maybe another week, but, feeling better.
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So we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna just do a little bit help to yeah. We're gonna crank down real hard.
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We're gonna you lotion up,
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crank one down. Yep. We got our we got our long distance lotion. Long distance lotion. Long distance vibrators.
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We got our little rabbits gone. I shoved mine straight up my ass, and Aaron has the control.
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So Yep. Mhmm.
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If I if I go to choose something that Aaron doesn't like, then he's gonna give me a little buzz.
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It's gonna be to the tune of the of the the Tetris theme song.
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But just in increments of buzzing like
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Yep. By the end
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of the episode, I'll be like, why don't you go ahead and play that full song, Aaron? Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck. This is gonna a good one.
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It's gonna be good. Hey, Jerry. Sweet to have you back.
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It's great to have you back. I love you. Too bad. Love you. The tears today, which we just died.
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I feel like that's the best time to decide on something is in the moment.
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So, of course,
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right up top, we got God tier. And I I think you all know what that means. And I think a lot of you if you're familiar with the Dreamcast, maybe maybe you're not familiar with what or God and tiers. We got it all here today. So, god's here.
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Obviously, top of the top. Top of the titty top. And then we got the a tier, which is our ass and titty tier, which feels listeners at home, I I just want you to say it along with me. Okay? Because it feels really good.
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Like, a tier is really good because it's ass and titty tier. K? So we got ass and titty ass and titty tier ass and titty tier. Then we got the b tier. Big changa.
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Big changa. Big changa. Yeah. You're you're hung hung loose and loose and long.
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Long and hairy hard to carry.
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And then, of course, the the the tier for c is of I mean, what else could it be other than the crack dent tier? It's the it's the crack dent tier. Yeah. Sure. It's probably a little bit of fun, but it may or may not ruin your life.
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Yep. Yep. Crack is good, but crack is good until it's not.
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Crack is good until it's not. I am also noticing that I'm still getting that stupid ass flickering with my camera, so I apologize for that. Alright. And then the final tier. The final frontier of garbage is dog trash.
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Dog trash. Right on
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the bottom.
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The d tier. The the dog trash tier. Dick tier. Right here. Like this shit emoji.
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So I think the way we get this started off, I I have a bunch of images that I've imported for the sake of this episode and ranking these. We can kinda we can go down through these real quick just to give you a list. Maybe there's some stuff on the Dreamcast that you didn't know it launched with. There's a lot here that I sure as fuck didn't know launched with the Dreamcast. Yep.
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I also didn't real because when you messaged me and you were like, hey, let's do the Saturn. And then you're like, well, there's only I think there's only six launch titles. I was like, yeah, that's fine. And you were like, oh, we could do the Dreamcast. There's 19 fucking games.
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This has to be a record. Like, there's no way any any other fucking console launched with 19 games. This is wild. Like, I have no idea how how the Dreamcast managed to it's almost like they just were like, we're gonna be the best console ever made. And they launched it, and people were going crazy.
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And then they were like, hey. Do you remember to put the security features on the oh, fuck. Well, we'll just Larry, did you yeah. We're gonna have to wait and see if they find it. They're gonna find it.
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Fuck. They're gonna find it.
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Larry, could you hang on just oh, they already burnt a they already burnt a whole new disc.
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Oh, fuck. They're getting the CDIs? Buying them in bulk. They got it all. They got the whole library, Larry.
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You fuck.
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Larry, may he rest in peace. Bubble will die. Made a great chilling.
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He met god that day.
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Not god tier. Just god.
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No. He just met Jesus and god and all them guys, all the homies because he
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The heaven homies. That's my that's my new puppet Sesame Street spin off.
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Heaven homies?
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Yeah, dude.
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Featuring big featuring big the cat. Big god the cat. Alright. So the the yeah. Aaron, tell the listeners what games launched on the Dreamcast in 1999.
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Am I going through each and every one?
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Yeah. Fucking say them all. Oh,
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Jesus. Okay.
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Alright. I'm sorry. That's so impressive. It's okay. It's okay.
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We got love you. It's okay. I love you too.
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We have arrow wings, air force delta, blue stinger. I'm going off a totally different dock here, so they might be out of order. K. Yeah. So Blue Stinger.
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Kart, flag to flag, Hydro Thunder, Monaco Grand Prix racing simulation two. What a fucking name. Mortal Kombat goal, NFL two k, NFL Blitz 2,000, pen pen Trisilon? Trisilon? Powerstone.
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Yeah. Trisilon. Ready to rumble boxing, Sonic Adventure, praise Jesus, Soul Caliber, the House of the Dead two, TNN Motorsports Hardcore Heat, Tokyo Extreme Racer, and Trickstyle. Before we get into this, though, a quick shout out to to TNT, the cable channel, because they're still going strong. I don't know what the fuck still plays on TNT, but god bless them.
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Shout out to you, TNT.
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Shout outs yep. TNT, you you are a dynamite. Alright. Let's let's get this out of the way first. Sonic Adventure.
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Oh. Oh, man. I I want I
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feel like it feel like it's an ass and titty tier.
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I think so. The only reason I say that I love everything about the game except for anytime you play as big the cat because I wanna just throw myself off off of a bridge. Or I forget if it's this game or the second game, we're playing as Knuckles sucks balls. I think it's two, maybe. Well
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Yeah. It's two.
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Do you do the scavenger hunts in for the first Sonic Adventure?
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I I don't know. I think you do. Not a 100% sure.
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But Ass Tiddy Tear sounds fine.
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Ass and Tiddy Tear, I think, is is serviceable for a Sonic Adventure. It's
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got banging soundtrack. Hub world, everybody
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hates it, but I think
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the hub world's pretty fucking cool.
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World's not bad. You know? Yeah. Like, I think there's something to be said about that hub world. It's I mean, it's not Peach's Castle.
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I mean, there's not a lot of hub worlds that are that good. But as far as hub worlds go, it's it's fine. It's alright. You got big hanging out at the pool.
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It's all interconnected too. Oh, you got the Chao Garden also. That shit's pretty tight. I get I spend, like, 9090% of my time in this game at the Chao Garden.
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Did you play this on real hardware?
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I did not. I've only ever
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It's really it's really fucking dope when you actually have, like, a VMU, and you can, like, load the Chao's up on the VMU. And then, like, you take the VMU, and it's, like, its own little it's like a Tamagotchi game. Oh,
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that's kinda cool.
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It's been a long time since I 've I've seen that in action, but yeah.
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It's cool. Hell, yeah. Sonic Adventure. Praise God.
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Yep. Ass and titties here. That was a that was that was an easy one. Yeah. Let's try this.
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NFL two k. Well, I'm not a I'm not
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a sports guy. Definitely not a football guy, I I
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I bet you
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it's bad.
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I bet you it's bad.
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But it's here, let's let's this is probably a shit thing to do, but I'm gonna look
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up I'm gonna look up A review?
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Reviews. Yeah.
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I'm gonna look up a score.
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Is it NFL blitz 2,000 or two k? Two k. Or is it just NFL two k?
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Sega NFL two k.
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Okay. There we go. Alright. What's
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what what's it say? What are we looking at here?
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Oh, holy shit. Okay. It's got mostly nineties. Fuck. Basically, 92% on game rankings and, yeah, a lot of a lot of four to five stars, 9.25 out of 10, shit like that.
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People love it. People people people like this game. However, I don't like football. I wanna put it in dog trash. If you feel like it it deserves to be in a crack den, then we could put it in crack den tier.
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Yeah. We'll yeah. We'll circle back to it if we need to once we get to all the other games that definitely deserve to be in dog trash and crack den and such. But as for right now, I don't fucking care about football, so dog trash.
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Dog trash it is. Let's go Mortal Kombat Gold.
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Which which Mortal Kombat game is that? Like, wasn't it a a remake of one of the other ones I'm looking at right now?
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I always get gold confused with four, and four is real dumb. Like, it has those ridiculous cut scenes and stuff.
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So, yeah, it is it's an updated version of Mortal Kombat four.
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Is it? Yep. Oh, man. It's got nug. Oh, dude.
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I mean, I I don't wanna base these these rankings on, you know, old ass reviews. However, I will say this. There's something really stupid and funny about how bad the cut scenes are if you do like the story mode. I feel like I feel like I wanna put this I wanna put this either in Crack Den or Big Jonga.
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Was this the one with the or was Mortal Kombat four the one with the hilarious cut scenes on n 64?
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Yes. That's the one. Yeah. Let's go Crack Den.
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If we go if we get
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an updated version of that, yeah, that's that's definitely not dog trash. That's funny. Yeah. The more players. Give me more dumb cut scenes.
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I like how okay. So critical critical reaction was mostly average due to the graphics being inferior to the arcade version, of course. The weapons deemed boring or useless and game breaking bugs and glitches. So it sounds hilarious.
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Yeah. Cracked in. It belongs in the Cracked in. Sweet. Power stone.
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Oh, god. Toss them down. Power stones. Yeah. Power stone has to go up on God tier.
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This is we must. I there's no there's no other there's no other way.
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The only the only negative to this game is it's not even its own fault. It's that it's not available on anything else nowadays. That's it.
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Yeah. That's really the only fault it has, but that's not its fault. It didn't ask to be brought into this world. But then when it was, it was the best It was. Ever.
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Yes. Did I ever tell you that I on the the launch day of the Dreamcast, I stood in the lineup and I fought a man in a gorilla suit that was dyed blue because I think he was trying to look like Sonic.
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Really?
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No. Oh, okay. Blue blue Stinger though. Holy shit. Yeah.
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Goddamn. Blue Stinger. I think I've played a little bit of Blue Stinger. Have you?
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I haven't played it, but I've watched a very extensive review of it by, my my YouTube my YouTube man, Nitro Rad, and it looks It's cool.
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I think honestly, I would put it in probably Big Chunga because I think it's kind of an underrated, maybe not underrated. I don't know what it got review wise. Because that's the thing. I since I've been going down the retro rabbit hole, I try not to go back and read reviews for any of the retro games.
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Yeah.
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Because, like, there's stuff that is considered garbage that a lot of times I'm like, you know what? This is not bad. There's nothing wrong with this at all. So I from my experience, I would put Blue Stinger and Big Chunga.
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Let's do it, dude. From what I've seen on that video, it it looks looks fucking hilarious and interesting. But yeah, dude.
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So, I mean, we've we've mentioned a couple of games here already, and now we have one in each tier. We got, Power Stone and God tier. If you don't know what Power Stone is, you're in the right and the wrong place at the same time because here at Retro Rehab, we love some Power Stone.
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Fuck. And
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it's a great party game. It's a fantastic four player game. And it's kinda like Smash Bros, but with a more three like, top down three d kind of brawl. It's got it's got all the thing. If you like Smash Bros, you would have to play this.
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You have to. This is this was, like, Sega's answer to Smash Bros.
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Honestly, it's it's a little bit more chaotic than Smash Bros in some
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It's definitely more chaotic. Yeah. Because, like, definitely more chaotic.
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Because in Smash Bros, it's just like the same stage the entire time. Oops. Someone got a hammer. Oops. Someone got a lightsaber.
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But in Power Stone, it's like the the levels the levels themselves are constantly changing, like, whether you're on this is probably the wrong game, but there's one stage where you're in this old, like, jungle temple, and then it's it's starting
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to Oh, yeah. Power Stone two. Okay. That one's about Power Stone two. But, yeah, you're right, though.
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I mean, there's, like, fucking special moves. Cool. You can get, like, rocket launchers, fucking guns and shit. Do yeah. Power Stone rules.
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Yeah. Power Stone's great. I mean, Sonic Adventure, it's three d Sonic. Yep. If you if you haven't seen or played Sonic Adventure at this point, you definitely should.
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It's good. On everything. Blue Stinger. Blue Stinger is like a survival action horror ish game. Yeah.
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And it looks kinda rough by today's standards. Like, if if somebody threw that on and they were a little bit more sensitive to, you know, the graphics back that I personally I love, like, janky old graphics Yeah, dude. On, like, the the PS two and Dreamcast era and then, like, the PS one and s 64. I love all that shit. I love watching as the generational consoles were trying to figure out what three d was.
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Because, like, none of them ass. Yeah. Just holding it up and shaking it. Why are you? Why are you?
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But, yeah, Blue Stinger might be a bit off putting at first, but I would say check it out, stick it through, emulate it, do what you gotta do. And then, then we got Mortal Kombat again. If you don't know come on, man. If you don't know what Mortal Kombat is, come on. What are we doing here?
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And we got NFL. If if you don't know what football is, that's okay too.
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Yeah. Maybe maybe go to another podcast and and and then
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see what the fuck football is
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all about. I'm just I'm just Yeah. It's it's a bit
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No. I'm serious. Go. Go. Go learn yourselves on the footballs, and we'll we'll stay here.
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We'll wait. We'll I should add. Nope. We're talking we're talking about
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American football, not like football everywhere else or in soccer. This is yeah. This is American football for yeah. I just wanna make that clear. Yeah.
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I like how America was like, I like that. I like that name. I'm gonna take that. That's mine. I want that.
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Then anytime you mentioned, like, anytime you mentioned soccer, but like as football in America, they're
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like, no. No. No. That's our word. No.
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That's soccer. No. No. No. Football.
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You like football?
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Jesus Christ. Go America.
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I find like football is like, as a Canadian on the outside looking in, you know, it's it's it's raining outside and I'm looking in all sad and I'm just seeing like all the Americans having a good time, eating all their fast food and playing all their football.
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Footballs. You guys are lucky, dude. Hockey is an indoor sport. People, I guess
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You guys go hockey too.
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I mean, we do, but hockey is definitely not as popular in The US as it is Canada. Like, I've been to
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a hockey game one time, though.
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It was pretty cool. People got their asses beat. I drank two beers, ate some popcorn, and it was great.
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Yeah. Yeah. Hockey is a good time. I don't really give a shit about sports, though. Like, I like hockey in the playoffs, but that's it.
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Yeah. That's really it. Football, I don't even know how the fucking game is played. Like, if you even sat me down with Run. Like, I need to you run.
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You hold the ball and run. Sir, I don't know how to play this game. And they're like, boy, you take the ball, and I want you to run as fast as you can.
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And just don't legs there? Just move them really fast.
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I just want you to start moving them. Motor it. You you hit that ground, you roll around on it. Motor it. Motor boat.
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Yeah. There we go. What's the next thing I think we should do is NFL blitz 2,000.
[00:23:16] - [Speaker 1]
Here's what
[00:23:17] - [Speaker 0]
I'll here's what I'll say. Blitz games are fun because they're arcade y. One thing that I've learned recently, I'm normally a do not show me a fucking sports game. Stop shoving it in my face like it's your fucking fifth wedding anniversary pictures, you're like, look, look how happy we are. I don't care about sports games.
[00:23:39] - [Speaker 0]
However, I've learned Blitz is virtual, actually. When they're no. When they're arcade y. Any any sports game that has an arcade y feel, dude, that's what's up. Look at beach spikers on GameCube.
[00:23:54] - [Speaker 0]
Beef spikers? Beach? Okay. Okay.
[00:24:03] - [Speaker 1]
What? No.
[00:24:04] - [Speaker 0]
I'm gonna head down to the hey, honey. I'm just gonna head down to the pier with Aaron. We're gonna go out for a couple of beef spikers. We're gonna go gonna go on down to the boardwalk and get some beef spikers.
[00:24:17] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, yeah. I I've played a blitz or two back in my day. I think I played '97 or '98 on the old PS one, and I think that was the one where you got to make your own team and you got to pick your own, like, name and, like, logo, and you could pick, like, different goofy fucking character names and attributes and shit. And that actually was kinda cool. I was like the the Cleveland Sugar Buzz or something stupid.
[00:24:41] - [Speaker 1]
And you can open packs of cards. You can open packs you can open packs of cards and they did something. I forget, but that was cool.
[00:24:49] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. I I I'm gonna say that, NFL Blitz probably belongs in Big Jonga, and maybe some people are gonna be mad about it. And maybe they're not. And maybe people are like us, and they really don't give a shit about sports games. And they'll be totally fine with us putting it in Big Changa.
[00:25:06] - [Speaker 0]
I just feel like Big Changa. As as a I'm almost putting the theme of Arcadia out to lunch sports games in the Big Changa, the b tier, because I like that. And I think, you know, I think something like Ready to Rumble boxing as well belongs in Big Changa. Because I think it's Arcadia. There's something about it.
[00:25:34] - [Speaker 0]
And I remember when that came out, I was like, this is the closest thing we're ever gonna get to another punch out.
[00:25:42] - [Speaker 1]
Ready two rumble boxing. I've never played this before. It looks really fucking cool, though. I got a Game Boy or no Game Boy Color version.
[00:25:54] - [Speaker 0]
I wonder if that I wonder if that plays like Punch Out. They they should make it play like Punch Out. This looks amazing.
[00:26:03] - [Speaker 1]
This does look really fucking like, everything looks real cartoony and shit.
[00:26:06] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
[00:26:07] - [Speaker 1]
Like Is that Michael Jackson?
[00:26:10] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, please tell me Michael Jackson's in this game. Yeah. He'd be oh, in
[00:26:15] - [Speaker 1]
round two. I think he's in the second one.
[00:26:19] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, that's hilarious. I love it.
[00:26:23] - [Speaker 1]
I'm on board with this. This looks really cool.
[00:26:26] - [Speaker 0]
Yep. I think it belongs to Big Chonka.
[00:26:29] - [Speaker 1]
Big Chonka. It's Soul
[00:26:33] - [Speaker 0]
Caliber belongs in God tier. If I could put it higher than God tier, I would. Aaron, do you agree?
[00:26:40] - [Speaker 1]
Sorry. I'm still looking at the ready to rumble boxing characters. Yes, dude. Big Willie Johnson. He just looks like this.
[00:26:51] - [Speaker 1]
Pale old British boxer, man. Oh my god. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
[00:26:56] - [Speaker 1]
Soul Caliber Willie. Big Willie Johnson. Yeah. God tier, dude. Soul Caliber fucks.
[00:27:03] - [Speaker 0]
Soul Caliber. Yeah.
[00:27:04] - [Speaker 1]
The original one to this very day still plays smooth as snot, man. It's so good. So snot. So smooth.
[00:27:13] - [Speaker 0]
So snotty smooth.
[00:27:14] - [Speaker 1]
Smooth and snotty, baby.
[00:27:17] - [Speaker 0]
Easy breezy beautiful snot.
[00:27:19] - [Speaker 1]
Easy, breezy, beautiful. Mister Warwat.
[00:27:24] - [Speaker 0]
Mister Warwat. May he rest.
[00:27:27] - [Speaker 1]
Yes. He's probably he's probably he's probably in
[00:27:30] - [Speaker 0]
the same accident. He has not he has not answered any of our fucking texts.
[00:27:36] - [Speaker 1]
He took way too much ambient at a at a at a beach party or something.
[00:27:41] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. Stupid. Like, control yourself.
[00:27:44] - [Speaker 1]
Drink responsibly.
[00:27:46] - [Speaker 0]
Have you played expendable?
[00:27:48] - [Speaker 1]
No. I'm gonna look it up.
[00:27:50] - [Speaker 0]
Please do. Explain this game to me because, you know, if if I get things explained to me sometimes, it it helps. Do you know what I'm saying?
[00:28:01] - [Speaker 1]
It looks kind of fucking cool, actually. It's a
[00:28:08] - [Speaker 0]
oh, it's a top down? Like a like a running gun?
[00:28:14] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah, dude. This actually looks should we co op this sometime?
[00:28:19] - [Speaker 0]
I thought you'd never ask.
[00:28:22] - [Speaker 1]
This looks pretty fucking cool, actually. I'm down for like a Will you go to me? Shooters.
[00:28:27] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah, man. Will you go to the prom with me?
[00:28:30] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. I'm on the fuck board. Oh, this
[00:28:37] - [Speaker 0]
I'm on a fuck board.
[00:28:39] - [Speaker 1]
The reviews aren't all that great, but, man, it looks pretty fucking cool.
[00:28:48] - [Speaker 0]
What you what do you say we put it in cracked end tier?
[00:28:51] - [Speaker 1]
I'm down for a cracked end tier.
[00:28:54] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. I do I I I really like these kinds of games. Like, this is my jam, dude. This is my jizzy jam.
[00:29:05] - [Speaker 1]
My jizzy jam. Is this a one second. Millennium soldier expendable. Did I not? I don't think I read this off on my list.
[00:29:15] - [Speaker 1]
What the fuck? Is my is my list wrong?
[00:29:19] - [Speaker 0]
Maybe. I I I grabbed the list from IGN.
[00:29:25] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. IGN makes way more sense. Fuck my list. Get out of here. Yeah.
[00:29:32] - [Speaker 1]
I I love top down shooters, whether they're twins, stay at core if they're like the old style, like, shock troopers where you hold the shoot button and your dude is locked in place and you can just kind of strafe back and forth. Like, yeah, that shit's so fun. I love that, dude.
[00:29:48] - [Speaker 0]
I guess in the Famitsu review, they said stay away. Stay far away.
[00:29:53] - [Speaker 1]
Goddamn. Textures are near works of art aided by color lighting. Blah blah blah.
[00:29:59] - [Speaker 0]
That sounds pretty glowing for compared to what I just read. People didn't know how to review back then.
[00:30:07] - [Speaker 1]
Let's see. Jeff Lundrigan called the Japanese Streamcast import a shameful waste of technology.
[00:30:19] - [Speaker 0]
Waste of technology. That's that's such a fucking bird, dude. To be like, you've wasted technology making this game. Oh,
[00:30:31] - [Speaker 1]
man. Okay. Listen. Okay. So pulled from Wikipedia.
[00:30:34] - [Speaker 1]
Here's a description of the game or, like, I guess, like, synopsis basically. Expendable takes place sometime in the post apocalyptic future where most of the galaxy was conquered by a hostile alien race. To combat the aliens, scientists had developed a Millennium Soldier project by cloning two super soldiers, Like, most top down run and gun video games
[00:30:52] - [Speaker 0]
For co
[00:30:52] - [Speaker 1]
op. Collectible upgrades and weapons and features common aspects like bosses and levels familiar with most games with it. So it sounds like any other top down shooter, but, I
[00:31:03] - [Speaker 0]
mean, it still sounds pretty badass. I would throw it on. I'd throw it on with you. I'd pop the shirt off and I'd throw it on right now.
[00:31:09] - [Speaker 1]
I'd pop my fucking pants off and play with you. Yeah.
[00:31:13] - [Speaker 0]
Jerry, that's not my joystick. That's my dick.
[00:31:19] - [Speaker 1]
It honestly just looks like cannon spike, but if it wasn't cannon spike
[00:31:25] - [Speaker 0]
Cannon spike is fucking real good.
[00:31:28] - [Speaker 1]
That is That's a real
[00:31:29] - [Speaker 0]
good game.
[00:31:29] - [Speaker 1]
Okay. Well, it's co op cannon spike also.
[00:31:33] - [Speaker 0]
House of the dead two.
[00:31:36] - [Speaker 1]
House of the dead is always good. I'm a It is.
[00:31:40] - [Speaker 0]
I'm a I'm a say it's probably an either between an ass and titty tier and a god tier.
[00:31:46] - [Speaker 1]
How does it play on the Dreamcast, though? Because I've only ever played, like, in the arcades with the guns and shit. Do just aim with the little, like, control stick?
[00:31:54] - [Speaker 0]
So you can get light guns for the Dreamcast.
[00:31:57] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, duh. Okay.
[00:31:59] - [Speaker 0]
But I think you can still play with the, like, the joystick. I just don't think it would be as good.
[00:32:07] - [Speaker 1]
Dude, the House of the Dead is always over the top, fucking ridiculous, and
[00:32:12] - [Speaker 0]
just fun.
[00:32:12] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. It's yeah.
[00:32:14] - [Speaker 0]
Dude, I love a good rail shooter is what I've come to realize. There's so much fun in co op. It's almost like, k, you ever play like have you ever, like, emulated an arcade game and played it with, like, in co op, like, with a friend or something? And it's, like, it's it's fun, but it's, like, dumb fun because, like, if you're emulating arcade, you're never gonna die. So you're just, like, turning your brain off and just being, like, let's button mash with my bros and have a beer.
[00:32:41] - [Speaker 1]
I love mashing my bros. Shout out to It's Always Sunny. You're just mashing it. She's just mashing it.
[00:32:54] - [Speaker 0]
Gale the snail. Potatoes.
[00:32:56] - [Speaker 1]
Yes. Salt that snail.
[00:33:01] - [Speaker 0]
Salt them mashed potatoes. Yeah. Yeah. I I I do like playing, like, an arcade beat them up or something where, like, there is no consequence. But the thing about a good rail gun shooter is, like, it has that arcade y feel, but it's pretty goddamn hard.
[00:33:22] - [Speaker 0]
Like, I don't think you could just infinitely keep going in the Dreamcast version of House of the Dead. Like, I don't think you could just keep popping coins in.
[00:33:30] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Most I'm
[00:33:31] - [Speaker 0]
pretty sure it's like, you have to console. Have to fucking beat it. Same thing with zombie revenge, which is a it's like a success like a spiritual successor to House of the Dead, but it's like a top down, like, shoot them up, arcade y, beat them up, like, horror game. You don't It's say hard as it's hard as fuck. Like, you gotta you gotta beat it in a run.
[00:33:58] - [Speaker 0]
Like, it's not Woah. It's an arcade it's a Yeah. It's a port of an arcade game.
[00:34:04] - [Speaker 1]
Holy shit. Hold on.
[00:34:08] - [Speaker 0]
Have you never seen this game before?
[00:34:10] - [Speaker 1]
No. This boss looks fucking bonkers, dude. Hold on. I'm gonna send this to you. Holy shit.
[00:34:22] - [Speaker 0]
Are you looking at? Describe it. Describe it.
[00:34:26] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, sorry, listeners. Okay. So the first one, it's it's there's just a guy in blue jeans and a blue tank top. He's shooting this big purple zombie skeleton monster, and it looks real rough, like, rough. And then this other screenshot I found is there's this dude who's it's almost like the Phantom of the Opera.
[00:34:48] - [Speaker 1]
He's got this, like, stitched gray part on his face. The rest of his face is fine. And the caption says, I smell evil.
[00:34:58] - [Speaker 0]
Great. It's great.
[00:35:00] - [Speaker 1]
I thought I thought it was hilarious. But
[00:35:02] - [Speaker 0]
Yep. Yeah. There's there's definitely a lot of crazy shit in that game. But, yeah, House of the Dead two. I would definitely put it in acid tater.
[00:35:11] - [Speaker 0]
Right where it belongs. Everything is in its right place.
[00:35:13] - [Speaker 1]
Here we go. Praise God.
[00:35:15] - [Speaker 0]
Mhmm.
[00:35:17] - [Speaker 1]
Christ alive.
[00:35:18] - [Speaker 0]
Praise praise Todd. Praise Todd. What are we what are we thinking about arrow wings?
[00:35:26] - [Speaker 1]
Holy shit. I actually this game is in my my basement game room right now, and it's
[00:35:32] - [Speaker 0]
pretty good. Yeah.
[00:35:35] - [Speaker 1]
Explain it to me. Arrow wings, it's like basically, like, ace combat kind of. It's more of like a flight sim, but yeah. You just or or, like, or pilot wings kind of. It's like an arcade y flight sim kind of.
[00:35:51] - [Speaker 1]
Like, you just fly around and just do whatever, man. It's it's really cool.
[00:35:55] - [Speaker 0]
It's supposed like dog fights?
[00:35:57] - [Speaker 1]
No. It's I I think it does. I forget. It it's more of a flight sim than it is anything else. Like, you can do tricks and stuff.
[00:36:07] - [Speaker 0]
So you're is there, like are you attacking shit?
[00:36:10] - [Speaker 1]
No. It's it's more like pilot wings than it is anything else where you just fly and, like, and, like, do stunts and shit like that.
[00:36:17] - [Speaker 0]
Doing tricks and shit. Yeah.
[00:36:20] - [Speaker 1]
Riding dolphins, doing flips and shit.
[00:36:25] - [Speaker 0]
I got my swam trunks. I got my flippy floppies.
[00:36:29] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah, dude. It's it's pretty cool, man.
[00:36:33] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Okay. Where where do you I that that does sound really cool. If it's anything like if it's like a Pilotwings kind of thing where it's like kinda got like that flight simmy feel to it, but like in a fun level based, like, challenge sort of way. I I think I might have to check this out.
[00:36:54] - [Speaker 0]
Sounds pretty cool.
[00:36:56] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah, dude. It's pretty sweet. Oh, yeah. It does have shooting, actually. So okay.
[00:37:01] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. So this might be right up your alley. You you can kill things. Do do ass and titties tier. This one's a good time.
[00:37:09] - [Speaker 0]
Ass and titties tier for their arrow wings. Arrow wing ass and titties tier.
[00:37:14] - [Speaker 1]
Assent Tity Deer. Assent Tity Deer. Yes. Yeah. Assent Deer.
[00:37:20] - [Speaker 1]
Game's real cheap too. So even if you do have, like, a physical physical Dreamcast and you wanna buy, like, a a cheap cool game for your Dreamcast y boy, Arrow Wings is pretty fucking cheap, dude.
[00:37:34] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Sounds sounds right up my alleyway. Straight up there. Yeah. Unlubed.
[00:37:41] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. Get it in there. K. How about we do a PenPen triathlon?
[00:37:51] - [Speaker 1]
What does it look about?
[00:37:51] - [Speaker 0]
What is it? Tri try salon?
[00:37:55] - [Speaker 1]
Try Pen Pen Tri Salon. Okay. So first off, let's get Wikipedia. Okay. Just tell me what it's about, man.
[00:38:10] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, okay. So it's similar to a real world triathlon. Tri salons consist consist of three separate sporting styles in one game, running, sliding, and swimming. Fuck's sakes.
[00:38:19] - [Speaker 0]
This sounds cool.
[00:38:21] - [Speaker 1]
Does it? Then you control little penguin creatures. Hold on. This actually sounds kinda dope here. I'll send you a link, dude.
[00:38:31] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Let's let's have a look see here what this what this hero game looks like. Pen Pen Tri Salon.
[00:38:41] - [Speaker 1]
It's it's like fall guys if fall guys look like shit. You can you can dress up your little dudes. Yeah. It's basically Oh. Basically kind of Fall Guys, dude.
[00:38:54] - [Speaker 1]
This is kind of dope.
[00:38:56] - [Speaker 0]
Oh my god. Yeah.
[00:38:58] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. You slid on your little belly, on your little penguin belly.
[00:39:02] - [Speaker 0]
I must play this.
[00:39:03] - [Speaker 1]
This looks great.
[00:39:05] - [Speaker 0]
Like how this this episode is also just us being like, what's this game? Let's let's look at this game. And that we're also discovering games that we wanna play. This is cool. I wanna stick this in the the big chunga.
[00:39:17] - [Speaker 1]
Do it, dude. Yeah. The, yeah, the reviews even gave it, like, like, mid, like, c plus shit like that, but fuck the reviews, though. This game actually looks really fuck this game looks really interesting. I've never heard of it.
[00:39:30] - [Speaker 0]
Alright.
[00:39:32] - [Speaker 1]
Pen Drizalan.
[00:39:34] - [Speaker 0]
Pen Pen Drizalan, Big Junga tier. Big Junga. Alright. You wanna pick the next one? Go ahead.
[00:39:43] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. What's the Pick second from the left. The the the Formula One looking ship. Yeah.
[00:39:51] - [Speaker 0]
Flag to flag.
[00:39:53] - [Speaker 1]
Pardon what? Flag to flag?
[00:39:56] - [Speaker 0]
Pardon my flag. It's a yeah. Flag to flag. It it I guess it's just like a Formula One looking thing, which is funny because there's there's another Formula One game on here.
[00:40:08] - [Speaker 1]
Of course, there is. Let's see. Yeah. It just looks like a regular ass formula racing game. It looks really good, though.
[00:40:18] - [Speaker 1]
Initially licensed officially licensed by the championship auto racing team. So it's, I guess, it's more of a racing sim and less of, like, a like, an arcade racing game. Start your engines. Yeah. True to life 19 true to life kart circuits.
[00:40:39] - [Speaker 0]
It looks okay. I'm I'm seeing a video of it right now, and, like, it's it's kinda blah.
[00:40:47] - [Speaker 1]
Like Yeah. I guess if if you're if you're a true to life Forza fan, like Forza Motorsport, not not the arcade y, Forza Horizon, then might be for you. Yeah. Cracked dent tier sounds good.
[00:40:59] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. I might put that might put that in the cracked dent tier. Flag to flag belongs in the crack dent. That's all I'm gonna say.
[00:41:09] - [Speaker 1]
What's what's next? What's up? What you got?
[00:41:12] - [Speaker 0]
Let's go let's go with titty nipple nipple hardcore heat.
[00:41:19] - [Speaker 1]
TNN TNN Motorsports hardcore heat. Hardcore fucking.
[00:41:28] - [Speaker 0]
I I've never played this game.
[00:41:31] - [Speaker 1]
I've never heard of it.
[00:41:33] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, it's all dune buggies.
[00:41:35] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, that's cool. That's adorable.
[00:41:39] - [Speaker 0]
Dude. Look at you, you little dune buggy. Look at you little dude buggy.
[00:41:44] - [Speaker 1]
This looks pretty arcade y. Like, I could I could fuck with this.
[00:41:48] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. You know what? I'm kinda getting some fun vibes out of this as well. Can get
[00:41:53] - [Speaker 1]
a little pickup truck.
[00:41:57] - [Speaker 0]
The littlest pickup truck we could.
[00:41:59] - [Speaker 1]
This this could actually be a real fun time if we we threw this on and did some, like, split screen or something. Holy shit. Some of the things that made other games. Limited. Oh, there's not very many cars and tracks, though, apparently, but it still looks like a still looks kinda cool.
[00:42:17] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. I I'd throw this in the in the beats here, probably.
[00:42:22] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah, dude. Beat up.
[00:42:26] - [Speaker 0]
Beat up. Beat Bird up. Hydro Thunder. Get the fuck out of here. This game sucks.
[00:42:36] - [Speaker 1]
Put it all the way up there, man. You don't like Hydro Thunder?
[00:42:40] - [Speaker 0]
I think I might be thinking of something else. I think Hydro Thunder actually might be cool.
[00:42:44] - [Speaker 1]
Hydro Thunder rules, dude.
[00:42:46] - [Speaker 0]
Really? Think
[00:42:48] - [Speaker 1]
of, like have you played, like have you played Wave Race before?
[00:42:53] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, yeah. This looks like Wave Race meets, like, Wipeout.
[00:42:57] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's really fucking cool, dude.
[00:43:00] - [Speaker 0]
It's like high-tech Wave Race, like, in the future.
[00:43:04] - [Speaker 1]
Hydro Thunder is real fucking good.
[00:43:08] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Okay. You're thinking you're you're thinking this one might be a b tier? Might settle in that b tier? Or does it belong at Kraken?
[00:43:17] - [Speaker 0]
Is it is it that good that it belongs in the b tier?
[00:43:19] - [Speaker 1]
I'd put it in ass titties here, man.
[00:43:22] - [Speaker 0]
Really?
[00:43:23] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. That that's real good.
[00:43:27] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Hydro thunder going going in the I'm glad that I I requalified this because I thought I was thinking of something else all altogether.
[00:43:37] - [Speaker 1]
My my other co host, Silas, is here to join us. What's up? What are you doing?
[00:43:46] - [Speaker 0]
Do this, Silas. Do this. Welcome What to Retro Rehab.
[00:43:51] - [Speaker 1]
The bug Retro Rehab, buddy. Yeah. Hydro Thunder, it's like yeah. Exactly as you said, it's like a wave race meets wipeout or or even like wave race meets f zero. Like, it's real fast.
[00:44:05] - [Speaker 1]
And, of course, you gotta you gotta deal with the waves and, like, the water physics and everything like that, dude. It's it's sweet. It's real good.
[00:44:12] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Monaco Grand Prix.
[00:44:18] - [Speaker 1]
I don't know what the fuck that is. Monaco Grand Prix.
[00:44:24] - [Speaker 0]
Us see.
[00:44:25] - [Speaker 1]
Grand Prix. My phone is out there, buddy.
[00:44:34] - [Speaker 0]
Monica. Grand
[00:44:37] - [Speaker 1]
should be out there.
[00:44:39] - [Speaker 0]
Grand Prix. Oh, the Prix.
[00:44:41] - [Speaker 1]
Click on a YouTube video,
[00:44:42] - [Speaker 0]
and I'm like, man, the graphics in this look crazy. And then I'm like, oh, I'm just watching a real
[00:44:47] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Real. Shit.
[00:44:49] - [Speaker 0]
I was watching a real race.
[00:44:53] - [Speaker 1]
Let's see.
[00:44:54] - [Speaker 0]
My grand prix, the ream cast.
[00:44:57] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, yes. This a full full on simulator.
[00:45:01] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, really? Oh, this looks not great, though. Like
[00:45:10] - [Speaker 1]
oh, the cockpit view is kinda cool. I
[00:45:12] - [Speaker 0]
can't open the door.
[00:45:13] - [Speaker 1]
Okay. I gotta open the door for this baby real fast.
[00:45:16] - [Speaker 0]
Come on, buddy. Oh, can you go bring that to my left? Okay. Mama, hook me up with some of that Monaco Grand Prix. Monaco Grand Prix.
[00:45:36] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. This yeah. Look look people. Racing Sims are cool. They're just kinda not my thing.
[00:45:45] - [Speaker 0]
So I'll I'll put it wherever you wanna put it.
[00:45:49] - [Speaker 1]
You just tell me.
[00:45:51] - [Speaker 0]
I'm feeling probably dog trash.
[00:45:55] - [Speaker 1]
Let's do it.
[00:45:56] - [Speaker 0]
Kinda feels dog trash.
[00:45:58] - [Speaker 1]
Let's do it. Let's do it.
[00:45:59] - [Speaker 0]
Alright. Pick pick one. Pick one. Pick Pick Pick one. Middle.
[00:46:03] - [Speaker 0]
Middle. Middle. Middle. Tokyo Middle. Extreme Racer.
[00:46:07] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, okay. Extreme Racer. I'm looking it up. Woah. Oh.
[00:46:14] - [Speaker 0]
This is just becoming a tier list of what we actually want to play eventually.
[00:46:21] - [Speaker 1]
This looks cool. I like the the Japanese name, Shutoku battle. Bro
[00:46:27] - [Speaker 0]
oh, this looks cool.
[00:46:28] - [Speaker 1]
This does look cool. This is like oh, this is like what am I thinking of? Like, for Speed Underground almost. Like, in Tokyo. This yeah, dude.
[00:46:43] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Yeah. I can
[00:46:47] - [Speaker 1]
probably fuck with this.
[00:46:49] - [Speaker 0]
Doesn't look too bad.
[00:46:50] - [Speaker 1]
This looks pretty cool. I'd I'd spend a lot of time on this.
[00:46:53] - [Speaker 0]
I think I think this goes in I think this goes in b tier.
[00:46:57] - [Speaker 1]
Big Chunga's. Big Chunga. Okay.
[00:47:02] - [Speaker 0]
What we got next? Alright. Trick slide. Just seems like it's a it's a racing game.
[00:47:10] - [Speaker 1]
Tricks is it trick slide or trick style?
[00:47:17] - [Speaker 0]
Trick style.
[00:47:18] - [Speaker 1]
Trick style? Okay. Futuristic racing game was made by Criterion. They did the Oh. Burnout series.
[00:47:26] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
[00:47:29] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Okay. This looks interesting. It it's like a you're on, like, a hoverboard, it seems like. So it's it seems woah.
[00:47:47] - [Speaker 0]
Think think a snowboarding game, just not downhill, and it's, like, going through cities and stuff.
[00:47:55] - [Speaker 1]
This is
[00:47:55] - [Speaker 0]
It doesn't look great, but it doesn't look bad.
[00:48:01] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. It
[00:48:05] - [Speaker 0]
this looks alright. Right? Kinda looks kinda janky, and it pro like, I probably would throw this on and go, this is kinda cool, and then probably never play it again.
[00:48:17] - [Speaker 1]
This this kind of looks like a, like, futuristic Tony Hawk, but like, faster, I guess.
[00:48:25] - [Speaker 0]
And it's a race.
[00:48:26] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. It's a race. Yeah. It looks alright. Yeah.
[00:48:29] - [Speaker 1]
You wanna do, like, Crackdown?
[00:48:31] - [Speaker 0]
I think Crackdown. I think it belongs in a Crackdown.
[00:48:33] - [Speaker 1]
Would I feel like you
[00:48:34] - [Speaker 0]
would see some crackheads playing this in a Crackdown in 1999.
[00:48:38] - [Speaker 1]
Like, they were like,
[00:48:39] - [Speaker 0]
I got my swinging test. I got my my trick style.
[00:48:43] - [Speaker 1]
I gotta hit up the I gotta hit up this light bulb. Yeah. I'd I'd much rather play trick style over Monaco or NFL two k. Thank you very much.
[00:48:55] - [Speaker 0]
Mhmm. Uh-huh. And then last but maybe least. I don't know.
[00:49:01] - [Speaker 1]
What do we got? Air Force Delta. Does it say Delta? Yeah. Air Force Delta.
[00:49:08] - [Speaker 1]
Delta. BDO game.
[00:49:13] - [Speaker 0]
A video game about an Air Force Delta.
[00:49:20] - [Speaker 1]
Alright.
[00:49:21] - [Speaker 0]
Have you have you played this?
[00:49:22] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, this I haven't played it, but according to Wikipedia, it's a combat flight simulation game. I thought it said fight simulation, but three oh, three d aerial combat simulation. So this sounds like like fuck fight. Sweet.
[00:49:37] - [Speaker 0]
Yep. Ace Combat style. I'm looking at it right now. It looks like an Ace Combat
[00:49:41] - [Speaker 1]
game. Okay.
[00:49:42] - [Speaker 0]
It doesn't look terrible. It doesn't look terrible.
[00:49:44] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. I'm looking at one screenshot and, like, the the the world for August, that's the Xbox version. Never mind. That's unfair. Air Force Delta.
[00:49:55] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, this looks good. Dreamcast. Yeah. This does look pretty cool. I'd I'd play this.
[00:49:59] - [Speaker 0]
I would definitely play this. Yeah. I've I've come to really appreciate a good dogfight. We're never gonna get another Star Fox, so this is as close as it's ever gonna get.
[00:50:08] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Why don't we just play a just play some Ace Combat. I I should I should buy an Ace Combat game. That sounds cool.
[00:50:15] - [Speaker 0]
I believe this probably goes in the b tier, the Big Chunga tier.
[00:50:19] - [Speaker 1]
Big Chunga.
[00:50:22] - [Speaker 0]
And there you go. 19 games on the Dreamcast it released with, which is crazy to me. I can't believe that it it released with that many.
[00:50:33] - [Speaker 1]
Do you wanna should we shuffle any of these up, move any of these, like, up or down? I'm mean, like, how do you feel about like, I know you said you haven't played Hydro Thunder. Like, do you think that should stay in Hasen Tiddity tier, or is that something that you think should stay there or be moved down?
[00:50:55] - [Speaker 0]
I just realized if you look at this sideways, it looks like a middle finger.
[00:51:00] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, hell yeah. Perfect for this show.
[00:51:02] - [Speaker 0]
You see that?
[00:51:04] - [Speaker 1]
Yep.
[00:51:08] - [Speaker 0]
Happy little mistakes.
[00:51:10] - [Speaker 1]
I think think it's like maybe
[00:51:16] - [Speaker 0]
if I was gonna change anything in my PO bump blitz down to maybe crack then,
[00:51:24] - [Speaker 1]
I can go with that. Yeah. Because, like, if we were if we were if I was plopped in front of a Dreamcast and I could pick from, like like, one game from each tier well, I guess yeah. Yeah. I would definitely much rather play those other games in big chunk of tier instead of blitz.
[00:51:41] - [Speaker 1]
K. Yeah.
[00:51:42] - [Speaker 0]
Now here's the surprise second part to this. Oh, you devious motherfucker. We need to now eliminate and have only one standing in each tier.
[00:51:56] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, this is good. You brilliant bastard. Okay. So
[00:52:03] - [Speaker 0]
yeah.
[00:52:04] - [Speaker 1]
Should we start on god or, like, start on dog?
[00:52:08] - [Speaker 0]
On god. Talking in that brain rod. Should we fit the shot, god? I I do every time. I did twice today already.
[00:52:19] - [Speaker 0]
No. God
[00:52:22] - [Speaker 1]
has no refractory period.
[00:52:27] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, man. God has no refried beans.
[00:52:37] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah, dude. Where should we start?
[00:52:40] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, man. I think we start right at the top where it's fucking nice and thick and hard.
[00:52:48] - [Speaker 1]
It really is thick, man. These are too meaty, like
[00:52:52] - [Speaker 0]
These are are two thick boys eating all them hams. Oh, man. I can't pick. Power stone and fucking Soul Caliber? Are you kidding me?
[00:53:03] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Fucks. What have we what have we made for ourselves? So hear me out. So Yeah.
[00:53:09] - [Speaker 0]
If I
[00:53:10] - [Speaker 1]
was given a choice between because, like, because Power Stone two, I would rather play over original Power Stone, whereas there's only the one Soul Caliber on this system. So I guess
[00:53:22] - [Speaker 0]
I guess power stone, but Say it. Say it.
[00:53:27] - [Speaker 1]
Eliminate power terminate power stone.
[00:53:31] - [Speaker 0]
Yes. This is the way. Oh god.
[00:53:36] - [Speaker 1]
How do
[00:53:36] - [Speaker 0]
I feel?
[00:53:36] - [Speaker 1]
I feel dirty.
[00:53:37] - [Speaker 0]
How do we get rid of it? Can you get rid of these? Get rid
[00:53:42] - [Speaker 1]
sure you can. Can you click the the gear icon maybe? Can you right click it? Or is it like a garbage can icon anywhere?
[00:54:01] - [Speaker 0]
What if you just Add row below, and we're gonna call this the fucking garbage.
[00:54:13] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, there we go. And then move move the shit ones down to the garbage. Yeah. All the ones we eliminate to the garbage.
[00:54:20] - [Speaker 0]
Fucking garbage. What's wait. What's this?
[00:54:24] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. What the fuck is new? What?
[00:54:26] - [Speaker 0]
Was was new, Aaron? What's new? Did you what? We we lost our dog trash. Dog trash.
[00:54:36] - [Speaker 0]
There we go.
[00:54:37] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, do the games come out of dog trash?
[00:54:39] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
[00:54:40] - [Speaker 0]
There we go. There we go. We got it fixed.
[00:54:42] - [Speaker 1]
We'll put power stone in the garbage.
[00:54:47] - [Speaker 0]
I'm drawing
[00:54:48] - [Speaker 1]
it up, Kennedy. It does say it does say this. Yeah. Fuck, man.
[00:54:53] - [Speaker 0]
Then we got alright. This this is probably gonna be it's gonna be you know what? Let's let's start back at the bottom now. We we did god tier because there was only two there. Let's go let's go down to the bottom.
[00:55:04] - [Speaker 0]
Let's go down to the bottom. The dog trash.
[00:55:07] - [Speaker 1]
Can I take a piss break real fast? Is that cool?
[00:55:09] - [Speaker 0]
Man, you do what you gotta do. Right back. Right back. Right back. Right back.
[00:55:19] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. This?
[00:55:20] - [Speaker 0]
Alright. Let's ask the child. Ask him. Monaco Grand Prix or NFL two k? Because only he can decide the dog trash tier.
[00:55:29] - [Speaker 1]
Silas, should we keep Monaco Grand Prix or NFL two k? Pick one. NFL two k is gone.
[00:55:41] - [Speaker 0]
Alright. NFL two k getting the fucking garbage.
[00:55:44] - [Speaker 1]
There we go. The child has chosen.
[00:55:49] - [Speaker 0]
Has spoken. Alright. Cracked in tier.
[00:55:54] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, man.
[00:55:55] - [Speaker 0]
Now, I think right off the bat, I think expendable goes.
[00:56:00] - [Speaker 1]
To the trash? Is that what you mean? Like to the trash?
[00:56:05] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. It goes to the trash. I think so. I don't think it
[00:56:14] - [Speaker 1]
I guess so. For Flag to Yeah. Flag to get
[00:56:20] - [Speaker 0]
I think maybe I'll do flag to flag first. I think that deserves to get out of here first. Now, trick style, I feel like that can go in the garbage.
[00:56:31] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Toss it out, man.
[00:56:39] - [Speaker 0]
So we got Mortal Kombat gold, Expendable, and NFL Blitz 2,000. Now for me purse I think for us personally, and not going by like what other people think, if we're just speaking from our our hearts and our our brains and our
[00:56:59] - [Speaker 1]
And our lungs.
[00:57:00] - [Speaker 0]
Dick, bad tits and ass. Yeah. All all of our parts.
[00:57:07] - [Speaker 1]
Get the get the kid
[00:57:08] - [Speaker 0]
to say dickbag in the way. Dickbag. Alright. Let's let's get NFL Blitz out of here.
[00:57:18] - [Speaker 1]
Okay. Alright.
[00:57:20] - [Speaker 0]
Now I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna say it. I'm a say this. Mortal Kombat gold, I think, wins this.
[00:57:29] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. I think so too. Yeah. Mortal Kombat gold could, yeah, expendable get the fuck out of here, dude.
[00:57:37] - [Speaker 0]
Yep. Get that out here.
[00:57:39] - [Speaker 1]
Because, like, because fucking what is it? Cannon spike? That's that's that comes out much later. That's much better. Yeah.
[00:57:49] - [Speaker 0]
Infinitely better. I haven't played expendable, but I know it's gonna be infinitely better. Yeah. Alright. Here we go.
[00:57:56] - [Speaker 0]
Big chunk of tier.
[00:57:57] - [Speaker 1]
Okay.
[00:58:02] - [Speaker 0]
This one's gonna be tough because they're all kinda I I I'm not ready to get rid of pen pen because that look cool. It does look cool, man. I'm not ready to let go of Pen Pen, man. Oh, and it it did. Triathlon.
[00:58:19] - [Speaker 1]
Air Force Delta looked pretty cool.
[00:58:23] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. I feel like it might be something that I I throw on and throw off real quick.
[00:58:31] - [Speaker 1]
Air Force Delta? Yeah. Yeah. Toss it, dude. Toss it out.
[00:58:35] - [Speaker 1]
Garbage. Oh, and Tokyo Extreme Racer seems like something I I might actually play. It's that gives me real hard Need for Speed Underground vibes.
[00:58:47] - [Speaker 0]
I think next to the other racing game in this tier, the TNN hardcore heat, I think it's I think TNN gets out of here. What do you think?
[00:58:54] - [Speaker 1]
Do it. Toss it out, man. Toss it out.
[00:59:00] - [Speaker 0]
Between the four that are here now, Blue Stinger, Ready to Rumble Boxing, Pen Pen Tri Tri Salon, and Tokyo Extreme Racer. I feel like Ready to Rumble needs to get out of this.
[00:59:13] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. We've already got two fighting games. I mean, I guess it's a boxing, but still, yeah, they can get the fuck out of here.
[00:59:26] - [Speaker 0]
This is hard. This one. This one's hard.
[00:59:30] - [Speaker 1]
You need a good single player experience, so, like, Blue Stinger's gotta stay there. Blue Stinger's pretty fucking wild and cool.
[00:59:36] - [Speaker 0]
Blue Stinger's a cool game, man.
[00:59:39] - [Speaker 1]
It's got a character named dogs. That's pretty cool. No other characters got that dogs.
[00:59:47] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, I don't wanna get
[00:59:48] - [Speaker 1]
rid of the Tricelot, though.
[00:59:51] - [Speaker 0]
Tokyo Extreme Racer.
[00:59:57] - [Speaker 1]
Get Tokyo Extreme Racer out.
[00:59:59] - [Speaker 0]
Okay. Done. This is a hard choice, Silas. Maybe
[01:00:07] - [Speaker 1]
we flip a coin. I don't know, man.
[01:00:09] - [Speaker 0]
Should we leave it up to faith?
[01:00:10] - [Speaker 1]
We don't flip coins here. We don't believe in coins, only paper. What are you saying, Silas? Okay.
[01:00:20] - [Speaker 0]
I think he said blue stinger needs to stay.
[01:00:29] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Yeah. Toss out Pen Pen, man. They're if you're gonna play if you're gonna play multiplayer out of any of these, I get your boys together for some Soul Caliber or Mortal
[01:00:39] - [Speaker 0]
Kombat or some ship. Yep. Yeah. Exactly.
[01:00:42] - [Speaker 1]
I know the hardest one of all. Oh, man.
[01:00:45] - [Speaker 0]
The ass and titty tear. I genuinely Okay. We got we got Sonic Adventure, House of the Dead two, Arrow Wings, and Hydro Thunder. K. Let's let's just knock this out right now.
[01:01:02] - [Speaker 0]
Between Hydro Thunder and Arrow Wings, because you've played both, which is
[01:01:08] - [Speaker 1]
it? Take out Arrow Wings. K. Why? Arrow Wings, I mean, you can just play fucking Pilot Wings or I forgot what the other game was we were talking about earlier, but there there's other good substitutes for that.
[01:01:28] - [Speaker 0]
Gotcha.
[01:01:30] - [Speaker 1]
And then I suppose, I mean, you could also take out hydro thunder because you could just play like wave race or wipe out or f zero.
[01:01:44] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. You could. You could do that. You know, you can't play House of the Dead anywhere else other than the arcade at at that time.
[01:01:52] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
[01:01:54] - [Speaker 0]
So I think Hives With Thunder gets out of here.
[01:01:57] - [Speaker 1]
Man. Oh,
[01:01:58] - [Speaker 0]
man. Now between House of the Dead two and Sonic Adventure though, here's here's what I'm struggling with. I think house of the dead two is the better of these two, but I feel like if if we are if we are putting ourselves back to 1999 launch day, we got a we got a pocket full of fucking change that we're ready to slap on the counter of a of a GameStop. We're gonna buy this. We're gonna wrestle a man in a gorilla suit for a Dreamcast.
[01:02:36] - [Speaker 0]
So what I'm thinking is if we want you know, mom's like, you can get five games. These are the five games. We're definitely picking up Soul Caliber. Definitely picking that up. Aaron's sleeping over on the weekend.
[01:02:51] - [Speaker 0]
We're having pizza, and we're fucking some Soul Caliber up. That's what's up. Blue Stinger. We could throw that on. Maybe get a little spooky.
[01:03:01] - [Speaker 0]
Some
[01:03:03] - [Speaker 1]
real funny shit happens in that game too, man.
[01:03:06] - [Speaker 0]
Yeah. I feel like that would be some dumb fun. I probably would have been into it back then. Mortal Kombat Gold, of course, we're gonna throw out some Mortal Kombat Yeah, dude. Even though we already have a a fighting game on this list, but I can never get enough fighting games hanging out with friends.
[01:03:21] - [Speaker 0]
And the Monaco Grand Prix will probably bring it home, never take it out of the cellophane, and just throw it in the closet. And then one day be like, will this be worth something? And then we realize, no, it's not worth a goddamn thing.
[01:03:32] - [Speaker 1]
We're like, it's here.
[01:03:34] - [Speaker 0]
It exists. I feel like for the acid titty tear, it probably should be Sonic Adventure. Yeah. Because it's like It's a Sonic game on a Sega console.
[01:03:50] - [Speaker 1]
But okay. So Oh, fuck. Speak to me. This is this is tough. So so, yeah, Sonic Adventure, I mean, it's it's a launch title for a Sega console.
[01:04:00] - [Speaker 1]
Like, you you would have to get a Sonic game for a Sega console. Right? But, like, Sonic Adventure two is, like, two or three years away, and I don't think there's ever another house of the dead on Dreamcast, is there? I don't know. I'm looking
[01:04:21] - [Speaker 0]
There's other rail shooters, but I don't think there's another House of the Dead. The only thing that well, I mean, there's that zombie revenge, but that's not that's not the same thing at all.
[01:04:29] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah.
[01:04:30] - [Speaker 0]
It's just like a spin off.
[01:04:32] - [Speaker 1]
Let's see. House of the Dead three, not on Dreamcast. So
[01:04:39] - [Speaker 0]
There you go.
[01:04:42] - [Speaker 1]
I I do love horror.
[01:04:45] - [Speaker 0]
Like, anything horror adjacent, I'm, like, all in. I'm all in.
[01:04:48] - [Speaker 1]
Sonic Adventure is out, dude.
[01:04:51] - [Speaker 0]
Really?
[01:04:54] - [Speaker 1]
I think. Oh, wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
[01:04:56] - [Speaker 1]
Wait. Wait. Dude.
[01:05:00] - [Speaker 0]
Oh, stop. Sonic Adventure versus House of the Dead two is something I didn't ever really think about in my brain before if I had to choose between them.
[01:05:11] - [Speaker 1]
Should we let the baby decide? Wait.
[01:05:17] - [Speaker 0]
It depends. If the baby picks something that we don't like, do we yell at the baby? Do we yell at the baby, dude? Are we gonna do that on on TV, on on the television? When we yell at this child?
[01:05:30] - [Speaker 0]
He's like, hassle the tattooer. Like, fuck. Goddamn it, kid. You're grounded. I Get back in the microwave.
[01:05:42] - [Speaker 1]
Fuck. The only argument that I have for this is that there's another Sonic Adventure that you could get with a better chow garden. Silence stop making a mess. But it's on launch day, dude. You gotta get Sonic at launch.
[01:06:02] - [Speaker 0]
You gotta get Sonic at launch. That's what I'm saying. Like, you gotta get Sonic at launch, but I've I truly I know this to be true that House of the Dead two is a better game than Sonic Adventure. I know this to be true. I could feel it in my taint.
[01:06:18] - [Speaker 1]
Sonic adventure's out, dude. Final answer. Because there you can get you can get Sonic adventure two in a couple of years, and it's it's far more polished, dare I say it.
[01:06:32] - [Speaker 0]
But do you really wanna miss like, I feel like I would discover the meaning of FOMO in the year 1999, the year of our lord. Be calling up all of my brothers in Christ and being like, Do you have Sonic Adventure? And like, man, who do you know that had a fucking Dreamcast? I didn't know anybody that had a Dreamcast. I always wanted one.
[01:06:53] - [Speaker 0]
And I feel like a 100% day one, I'm getting Sonic Adventure.
[01:06:57] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Oh. That'd be like
[01:06:58] - [Speaker 0]
the I feel like it's like the main reason to get the console at the time.
[01:07:02] - [Speaker 1]
For the for Sonic Adventure?
[01:07:03] - [Speaker 0]
Right. Yeah.
[01:07:05] - [Speaker 1]
But so if if these were the five games that you could get at launch, but, you know, everybody else is getting, like, Sonic Adventure, you could just borrow from one of your buds maybe? I don't know, man. I guess I guess house of the dead has to go. We'll save up some money shoveling the sidewalk and shit.
[01:07:26] - [Speaker 0]
Mowing people's lawns in December. Yeah, dude. Not where we live.
[01:07:35] - [Speaker 1]
Doing doing unspeakable acts behind Denny's as adults, though. I'm not yeah. Yeah. Pains me to say it, but, yeah, chuck it out.
[01:07:47] - [Speaker 0]
I think house of the dad has to go.
[01:07:48] - [Speaker 1]
Oh, that was so painful. I'm never gonna recover from this.
[01:07:52] - [Speaker 0]
I didn't like that.
[01:07:53] - [Speaker 1]
I gotta be honest with I didn't like it.
[01:07:55] - [Speaker 0]
I didn't like throwing a house of the dead in there. I didn't like throwing power stone
[01:07:58] - [Speaker 1]
in the garbage either. Yep. I didn't care for that.
[01:08:00] - [Speaker 0]
I didn't like throwing pen pen triathlon.
[01:08:03] - [Speaker 1]
I miss you, pen pen triathlon or whatever. Triathlon.
[01:08:09] - [Speaker 0]
Just three asses. They're gonna run.
[01:08:12] - [Speaker 1]
Ass. Ass. Ass.
[01:08:17] - [Speaker 0]
Alright. So we are left with the way that we do tier lists. Maybe a little different than you've ever experienced before in your entire life.
[01:08:25] - [Speaker 1]
Those are great twists, though.
[01:08:27] - [Speaker 0]
You might have woke up today and saw and said, what am I gonna watch today? What am I gonna listen to? You tune in to Retro Rehab and realize, oh, these guys these guys are are shaking it up. Throwing that chicken in the shake and bake, and you were just shaking it.
[01:08:41] - [Speaker 1]
We're eating it raw. Raw.
[01:08:44] - [Speaker 0]
No. Raw dog.
[01:08:46] - [Speaker 1]
We're shaking it, but we're not baking it. Goddamn it.
[01:08:50] - [Speaker 0]
Yep. So at the end of the day, we have our tier list of launch titles narrowed down to five games. Our god tier game is Soul Caliber. Obvious. Praise god.
[01:09:07] - [Speaker 0]
A tier, acid titty tier, sonic adventure. B tier, big chunk of tier, blue stinger. Cracked in tier for your c tier is Mortal Kombat gold. And, of course, in the d tier, in the dog trash is Monaco. We'll get it.
[01:09:26] - [Speaker 0]
We'll pick it up. We'll throw it in the garbage when we're done.
[01:09:30] - [Speaker 1]
That's the one we use as a coaster. Yeah. This one can
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hold my Mountain Dew code red. That's the one that we don't care if we scratch it up.
[01:09:41] - [Speaker 1]
That's right. You can use this one for as a what are you trying to do, Silas? Stop.
[01:09:48] - [Speaker 0]
Well, there's our our tier list of the launch titles on the Dreamcast. Again, this was a little bit more of an impromptu episode of Retro Rehab where we're we're getting things back in the swing. Got Back in the swamp. We got a good we're we're heading down to the swamp for the next episode. We have a very, very good guest lined up for our next episode of Retro Rehab.
[01:10:13] - [Speaker 0]
It'll be a lot of fun. We're going to, Aaron and I are going be forced to make a decision, a decision about our backlogs. Yeah. Backlog. It's a little hint about our guest.
[01:10:29] - [Speaker 0]
So in the meantime, Aaron, where are these listener folk gonna go if they wanna watch us or listen to more of us or just hear some other things. Where are they gonna go? Tell them. Well well,
[01:10:45] - [Speaker 1]
I'll tell you, Jared. You can head right over to hell. They had super pops kid. You can go right on over to
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super thing.
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My bad. You can cut that out. Listeners, It you can go stays.
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You can go right up.
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Damn it. Superpodnetwork.com. You you can find Super Ghost Radio there, Retro Rehab, of course. You can find Super Pod Saga, and just a trillion other awesome podcasts like Find Time Remember 64, just a bunch of other awesome shit. You can find our blog as well.
[01:11:18] - [Speaker 1]
I just wrote a cool review about Lords of Thunder today, which is possibly the best schmup ever created. I don't know. I shouldn't have said that out loud. I'm gonna get struck by lightning. Yeah.
[01:11:29] - [Speaker 1]
Check it out. All sorts of good shit there.
[01:11:33] - [Speaker 0]
Yep. It is a good time. I I can I can clarify this? Yes. And, of course, if you if you wanna support us, the easiest way to do it is to leave a review
[01:11:45] - [Speaker 1]
and, you know, just tell people about this podcast.
[01:11:48] - [Speaker 0]
Share it around. Smash those like buttons or whatever the fuck happens in a podcast.
[01:11:55] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. Leave a review on whatever app you're listening on. Leave a rating if you're on Spotify. But, yes, like Jerry said, most importantly, your friends and family that we exist and we're funny. You tell us we're good.
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Tell us we're good. Tell us again.
[01:12:11] - [Speaker 1]
I hope we're good.
[01:12:12] - [Speaker 0]
I don't wanna have to wrestle any more men in Gorilla suits for drinking cats. Love you. I'm I'm I'm over it. But, anyways, that'll that'll do it for our first impromptu retro rehab where we ranked the launch titles on Dreamcast.
[01:12:30] - [Speaker 1]
Yeah. But we thank you all for listening,
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and we will see you on the next episode.
