ItsBritneyBitch.flac | Pokémon Legends Z-A, Ninja Gaiden 4, Lisa: The Painful, Elechead, and more

[00:00:00] - [Aaron]
Are you kidding?
[00:00:01] - [Gerry]
Are you
[00:00:01] - [Beth]
fucking me?
[00:00:02] - [Gerry]
I'm not
[00:00:03] - [Beth]
Oh, you're fucking kidding me?
[00:00:04] - [Gerry]
I don't know which ones Are you fucking kidding So I don't know sometimes what the colors are or the things Understandable. Because I'm I just know what I play them on. So I'm like, yeah, I play the Game Boy Color one.
[00:00:22] - [Aaron]
The yeah. You because you play Crystal first because that was the one where me
[00:00:25] - [Gerry]
and Wait.
[00:00:26] - [Aaron]
Greg were like
[00:00:27] - [Gerry]
No. I played silver first.
[00:00:30] - [Aaron]
I thought you did crystal instead of silver.
[00:00:33] - [Gerry]
I did silver first, then I did emerald, then I started some DS one and hated the look of it.
[00:00:44] - [Aaron]
Yeah. You didn't vibe with platinum. It's a shame.
[00:00:56] - [Gerry]
But by the way, welcome welcome back to Super Ghost, everybody. Full full deck of cards today minus Greg. So that's not a full We've got a full
[00:01:11] - [Beth]
deck minus the king of hearts or whatever. Greg
[00:01:15] - [Gerry]
is the king of hearts.
[00:01:17] - [Beth]
King of farts.
[00:01:18] - [Gerry]
Maybe having to proclaim that. Yeah. The king of hearts. Farts. King of the king of shirts.
[00:01:27] - [Gerry]
I'm sorry, Greg.
[00:01:30] - [Beth]
We love you, Craig. I'm so sorry.
[00:01:34] - [Gerry]
Oh, man. So, yeah, thanks for coming back and listening to us again. We appreciate you not hanging up the call. Aaron, you are now Picasso for us. So that seems like
[00:01:50] - [Beth]
Par for the course.
[00:01:50] - [Gerry]
On the right track. Yeah. We are Picasso for the course or whatever the teens say these days. Six, seven, or whatever
[00:01:58] - [Beth]
the fuck. Don't don't bring that onto the show. Goddamn it.
[00:02:01] - [Aaron]
Don't bring that energy in this room.
[00:02:04] - [Gerry]
What what energy? What you don't like it?
[00:02:08] - [Aaron]
There's a lot of really great slang and memes and things like that that the younger generations have brought to the table, and I really appreciate it. Six seven is not one of them. Six seven, I feel a little like, know, guys could have workshopped this a little bit better.
[00:02:24] - [Beth]
Six seven makes me nauseous. Makes me want to throw up every time someone goes I'm not even gonna say it. Every time someone says it, I'm
[00:02:30] - [Gerry]
like, but,
[00:02:36] - [Beth]
hey, listeners. If you wanna hear more of us throwing up, you can go to superghost.site. Just kidding. That's the the podcast website. You can find us there in our socials if you want us.
[00:02:45] - [Beth]
You can look it up. Holy shit about choked. You can
[00:02:49] - [Gerry]
You can look up our skirts.
[00:02:50] - [Beth]
Yeah. There you go. You can check out our Patreon. That's there too.
[00:02:52] - [Gerry]
Not bad. Just not there.
[00:02:55] - [Aaron]
No. No. No.
[00:02:58] - [Gerry]
Superbost. Site. Not mess. Not mess. Oh, no.
[00:03:02] - [Gerry]
No. Beth doesn't wear skirts. She just wears pants.
[00:03:05] - [Aaron]
I do. I mostly only wear
[00:03:06] - [Gerry]
pants. Just cargo pants. Cargo pants. Real baggy cargo pants.
[00:03:10] - [Beth]
No jinkos. Jinkos. Or
[00:03:13] - [Gerry]
Beth is Beth is known to be wearing Jinkos.
[00:03:16] - [Aaron]
Mhmm.
[00:03:17] - [Beth]
Hell, yeah. Sorry.
[00:03:20] - [Gerry]
Made it public service now. Inviting everybody screen. Jerry, think before you speak.
[00:03:29] - [Aaron]
Think before you speak.
[00:03:31] - [Beth]
I invite everybody to look up my jinkos. Oh, yeah. Please.
[00:03:39] - [Gerry]
My jingles are down here, sir. Sir, That's a subtitle.
[00:03:45] - [Beth]
My jingles are up here.
[00:03:48] - [Gerry]
My gosh. Brought to
[00:03:50] - [Beth]
a fantastic start. A rolling start.
[00:03:53] - [Gerry]
Rip roaring. Did Britney Spears do anything crazy? Oh, actually, she did. She did? She did.
[00:04:04] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Kevin Federline of Britney Spears' boyfriend fame.
[00:04:09] - [Aaron]
Yes. Yes.
[00:04:10] - [Gerry]
Definitely not his career in rapping or whatever the fuck he was doing. Yeah. Right? He was like a wasn't he like a artist? I don't
[00:04:18] - [Beth]
know, Maybe a DJ. Artist.
[00:04:23] - [Gerry]
I feel like we have to honor the the the Britney. It's like that part on South
[00:04:28] - [Beth]
Park, Britney. They're like, I'm sick.
[00:04:30] - [Gerry]
Britney Welch. And now it's time for Britney Welch. Yeah. Like, we're just covering Britney's first names as a segment now.
[00:04:38] - [Aaron]
I'm gonna I'm gonna be that one person on YouTube that's like, leave Britney alone.
[00:04:42] - [Gerry]
I mean, I like, I don't dislike Britney Spears. I think she's
[00:04:49] - [Beth]
a little bit crazy. Everybody's a crazy, though.
[00:04:53] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Yeah. But let no, Aaron. But, like, you don't you don't get up in the middle of the night and be like, hey. Check out these knives, kids.
[00:05:03] - [Gerry]
Look at these knives. Aren't they awesome? And then dance and put it on Instagram. You don't really
[00:05:07] - [Beth]
do that. I mean, that's true. I
[00:05:09] - [Aaron]
That was a choreo that was her doing choreography from some random person. Yes.
[00:05:16] - [Gerry]
Nice. Check out this new choreography where I dangle this child off a pool or
[00:05:20] - [Aaron]
something. Jackson. Michael
[00:05:22] - [Gerry]
Jackson. Jackson. Jackson. Jackson. Lethal wiping.
[00:05:32] - [Gerry]
You don't know Jack shit about Michael Jackson. Mhmm. What's camera Jackson?
[00:05:41] - [Aaron]
Bring it. Keep going, guys.
[00:05:43] - [Beth]
That's it. I don't have any more.
[00:05:45] - [Gerry]
Okay.
[00:05:47] - [Beth]
Oh, god.
[00:05:48] - [Aaron]
So what did Kevin Federline slash Britney?
[00:05:52] - [Gerry]
Well, apparently, like, the knives stuff continues. There's more knives things. She, like, apparently stormed into his house with one tit, like, hanging out of her shirt and was all distraught. And he was like, girl, you guys keep your shit together. Put your titties back in or something.
[00:06:15] - [Gerry]
I don't know, dude. You're picking up your kids. And, yeah, there's just a whole bunch of stuff. Again, these are stories. Whether or not they have any validation, I don't know.
[00:06:25] - [Gerry]
Dude. I don't
[00:06:26] - [Beth]
know. Speaking of stories, keep seeing my Facebook is just constantly fluttered with RFK junior garbage about how he's like, video games cause gun violence or, like, kids are getting the tism from the Tylenol. Like, shut the fuck up, RFK. Listen.
[00:06:46] - [Aaron]
I've got autism. I my mom didn't take no Tylenol.
[00:06:51] - [Gerry]
Goddamn it. She took straight meth. No. I'm just kidding.
[00:06:54] - [Aaron]
She don't want McDonald's. I think McDonald's is
[00:06:56] - [Beth]
The whole intestine family.
[00:06:58] - [Gerry]
Yeah. But God forbid, RFK is not gonna get out there and be like, and
[00:07:06] - [Beth]
then he fucking did
[00:07:07] - [Gerry]
As any as the the guy that is controlling the health, has nobody come forth and be like, what the fuck is going on with your fucking voice, dude? Like, calling on.
[00:07:17] - [Aaron]
Constantly talking into a fan.
[00:07:18] - [Gerry]
And, like,
[00:07:19] - [Beth]
it didn't didn't we already talk about
[00:07:20] - [Gerry]
it sounds like he's just getting shaken all of a sudden. It was like someone's like, she's like, I no. If I can answer the question. It's like a combination of shaking the shit out of somebody and, like, fucking one of those, like, things that you put up your throat when you smoke too much.
[00:07:39] - [Aaron]
I don't Fuck my stomach. He's he's a sucker like, he brain he's got brain worms.
[00:07:46] - [Gerry]
This is
[00:07:47] - [Beth]
a brain worm. He's a living brain worm.
[00:07:49] - [Aaron]
He is a brain worm.
[00:07:50] - [Beth]
So, like, didn't we go over this whole fucking topic of, like, video games causing violence back in, like, 02/2002 with Manhunt? We've already proven it's not a thing.
[00:08:01] - [Gerry]
Video games don't cause people
[00:08:03] - [Beth]
to go crazy. It's like it's mental health issues that cause people to go crazy.
[00:08:07] - [Aaron]
That does not man does not care about scientific, like, you know, real scientific studies. Like, I think there was literally, like, last year or the year before, there was, like, a meta data analysis of, like, all of the studies, like, into whether or not video, games cause violence, and it's, like, conclusively, that's not the case. Like, any child who, like, perpetrates violence, and then they also, like, you know, play video games. There's other factors going
[00:08:35] - [Gerry]
on in just been playing a lot of manhunt, probably. Yeah. Manhunt. Manhunt and Time for Britney Welch. This just in.
[00:08:43] - [Gerry]
Britney has been playing the 2,002 PS two rock star video game.
[00:08:49] - [Beth]
In about two hundred hours, she's mastered the entire game. Those are front to back. That'd be
[00:08:56] - [Aaron]
Imagine.
[00:08:57] - [Beth]
Go ahead.
[00:08:58] - [Gerry]
Imagine.
[00:09:00] - [Aaron]
She started speed running.
[00:09:02] - [Beth]
That'd be cool. Britney's Britney Spears' new Twitch stream where she speed runs Manhunt and only Manhunt, not Manhunt two.
[00:09:09] - [Gerry]
I I would I'm not even fucking kid the same way that I I I do not apologize for liking Limp Bizkit, I would watch the fuck out of that series.
[00:09:18] - [Aaron]
Yes.
[00:09:19] - [Gerry]
Britney Spears playing anything online.
[00:09:21] - [Beth]
No. Just Manhunt.
[00:09:22] - [Gerry]
And just, like, casually starts singing like some of her songs out of nowhere. And then like, if she gets like a high enough donation, she just gets up, starts dancing with chives
[00:09:32] - [Beth]
and shit. Games. Like, she's getting the shit beat out of her and like tech in, not like her her character. I meant to say she's getting her shit rocked and tech in.
[00:09:40] - [Gerry]
I assume.
[00:09:41] - [Beth]
And she's like, hit me
[00:09:42] - [Gerry]
up, baby, one more time.
[00:09:44] - [Beth]
And he's like, k o. And then she's like, well, fuck. I lost a million dollars.
[00:09:51] - [Aaron]
Woah. When she bet a million? When she bet a million?
[00:09:55] - [Gerry]
And, like, her Twitch handle would have to be it's Britney bitch.
[00:09:58] - [Aaron]
It's Britney bitch. Oh, Jerry. That's so good. You know what? She should get in contact with us.
[00:10:04] - [Gerry]
Yeah. We can manage
[00:10:05] - [Aaron]
her. I am sure
[00:10:06] - [Gerry]
she's she's used to be a manager.
[00:10:08] - [Beth]
Brain worms are manifesting. We need to see we need to see if the domain, it's britneybitch.com is already taken, and we need to make that into, like, some goofy fucking shit posty garbage, like, early two thousands website. It's britneybitch.com or .org or something. It's britneybitch.net.
[00:10:29] - [Aaron]
Oh my god.
[00:10:30] - [Gerry]
Dotgov? Dotgov. Sign up now for the Brit it's britneybitchpetition.
[00:10:37] - [Aaron]
Hey. You know what? It probably is just as legitimate as the .gov, like, the White House site now? Don't they have, like isn't there, like, Hunter Biden, like
[00:10:48] - [Gerry]
Dude, there's crazy shit on the White House? Shit on the fucking dude, I'm sorry.
[00:10:53] - [Beth]
Screaming to White House.
[00:10:54] - [Gerry]
Dude, they gotta break this up. Oh, man. The white like, they they tore down that East Wing, and then
[00:11:00] - [Beth]
they put up some crazy shit on their website.
[00:11:04] - [Aaron]
Yeah. That's what I was like. I think, like, people were because people were like, children use this or, like, teenagers
[00:11:09] - [Gerry]
use be surprised that next week is just a pitch, like, some AI of, like, Obama with, like, blood on his face. Be like, that time that Obama dragged baby's blood.
[00:11:18] - [Aaron]
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:11:20] - [Gerry]
It's historical event on the West
[00:11:22] - [Aaron]
we gotta gotta be careful with what we're saying. Aaron could get arrested.
[00:11:27] - [Gerry]
I mean, I don't know.
[00:11:28] - [Beth]
There's nobody else in Iowa. Like, they'll all just hide in a prairie.
[00:11:32] - [Gerry]
Iowa is just a desolate aisle. Hide in the prairie. Deliver funny. Dan, his kids,
[00:11:38] - [Beth]
and, like, some neighbors and that neighbor kid. Exactly. In Iowa. I wasn't
[00:11:43] - [Aaron]
The real reason you work remote is that there's nothing else in Iowa. Like, here, it's just you.
[00:11:48] - [Beth]
I mean, you're right. No. I mean, there there is stuff, but I don't know. It's more fun to just say that Iowa has nothing. It's nothing.
[00:11:57] - [Aaron]
Yeah.
[00:11:58] - [Gerry]
Yours you're, like, capital city only has, like, one skyscraper, just, like, one single one.
[00:12:05] - [Beth]
They barely scraped
[00:12:06] - [Gerry]
I mean, that's kinda how it was in Corner Brook, Beth. Yeah. I know. Like, we have one library. One skyscraper.
[00:12:12] - [Gerry]
Skyscraper was, like, five. It was, like,
[00:12:15] - [Beth]
the size of a hotel, and people were like, it's our skyscraper. We're a city.
[00:12:20] - [Gerry]
It's fucking three stories.
[00:12:22] - [Aaron]
And the library was on the 4th Floor. Like, that was that's the only thing I knew that Yeah. There was a there was, like, a driver's, like, DMV type thing in the
[00:12:30] - [Beth]
Yeah.
[00:12:31] - [Gerry]
And then And that's where, like, court is and stuff too. Like, over the know what. Yeah, I don't know I think there's any restaurants in there.
[00:12:39] - [Aaron]
Genuinely don't know what the rest of the building is.
[00:12:41] - [Gerry]
It was it was so, like it's just such a sterile building. It's just like, that's where dreams and hopes go to die.
[00:12:49] - [Beth]
Sweet. Sounds like Iowa.
[00:12:51] - [Aaron]
It's where my dream of having a driver's license went to die.
[00:12:55] - [Beth]
Also that also sounds like Iowa. Iowa jokes.
[00:13:11] - [Gerry]
Alright. Aaron, you beat Lisa, the painful? Wait, which one did you play? Because there's like fucking 20 different versions of this game.
[00:13:19] - [Beth]
Yeah. So there's so they have Lisa Definitive Edition, and it's just the the painful and the joyful, which the joyful is like an epilogue to to the painful. So basically painful is one, joyful two. One two. And I'm playing through joyful right now, but it's like it's one of the there's only one character, like, one party member you get throughout the whole game, and I'm getting kinda, like, burnt out on it just a little bit.
[00:13:48] - [Beth]
But so painful. It's it's a full blown turn based RPG. It's nihilistic and, like, mature as fuck. There's lots of people dying all the time, just shit like that. So it set
[00:14:06] - [Gerry]
covers some topics in sexual assault too.
[00:14:09] - [Beth]
Oh, yeah.
[00:14:10] - [Gerry]
I think.
[00:14:10] - [Beth]
Yep. And then suicide and stuff like that. So trigger alert for that kind of shit. I mean, I I won't I won't talk about it a lot, but it's the game takes place in this town or village or world or whatever of Olathe. I think it's called Olaf, o l a t h e.
[00:14:29] - [Beth]
I know there's a town in Kansas called Olaf, so shout out to Kansas. Never thought I'd be doing that but yeah, shout out to Kansas. And in the world of Olaf, this like, white flash happened, the the like, post apocalyptic town of Olaf. There are zero women left in the world. They've all been wiped out by the white flash.
[00:14:51] - [Beth]
It's never explained, like, how or or like what all that was or like what but So it's all dudes in the world and as you can imagine, violence reigns supreme. Everything's run down, broken down. There's gangs and violence everywhere, people beating the shit out of each other. And the national currents or not national, the currency is is now mags or like nudie mags. That's that's the the currency.
[00:15:16] - [Aaron]
Oh. Yeah. Okay. I think when you said mags, thought, like, because of some the violence mag.
[00:15:22] - [Gerry]
Just a bunch of copies of the PlayStation three game mag.
[00:15:24] - [Beth]
Oh, dude.
[00:15:25] - [Aaron]
I was thinking, like, gun mags. Like magazines for, like, a gun
[00:15:29] - [Beth]
That'd be cool too. That would make sense too, but
[00:15:32] - [Aaron]
Not like like, you know, in prison, he has cigarettes and, like, the thing that
[00:15:37] - [Beth]
That will be yeah. I mean, they're they're you do also get cigarettes in the game, they're used for curing can or not cancer, goddamn it. They're used for curing poison?
[00:15:50] - [Aaron]
Not evil cigarettes. The white flash got rid of the women and made is giving me cancer.
[00:16:00] - [Beth]
Holy shit. So yeah. The so the currency is mags, duty mags, can get, like, there's just there's so much alcohol, like, all the time. There there's just there's onion vodka, there's, like, Colothian whiskey, party whiskey, there's all sorts of, like, party whiskey. There's all sorts of alcohols
[00:16:20] - [Aaron]
you Not to be confused with business whiskey.
[00:16:22] - [Beth]
That's right. Business whiskey, like the business scythe. It's my my my shit right there. You see, he plays the main character Brad who had a very fucked up childhood.
[00:16:33] - [Gerry]
Fucking Brad.
[00:16:34] - [Beth]
And I don't wanna talk about much of the story for fear of spoiling it for anybody. I mean, I think, Jerry, you said you were interested in playing it at some point or?
[00:16:44] - [Gerry]
Yeah. I I have had this game in my library for years and I just have never gotten around to playing it.
[00:16:53] - [Aaron]
Okay.
[00:16:54] - [Beth]
And I don't know why.
[00:16:55] - [Gerry]
I But it's one it's been on my list for a long time.
[00:16:58] - [Beth]
It's a the game originally came out, I think, in, 2012 or 2013.
[00:17:04] - [Gerry]
Yeah. It's it was just called Lisa then. I said, just Lisa. Okay.
[00:17:08] - [Beth]
Yeah. So there's so there's the prologue to the whole thing called Lisa, and that tells you Brad's backstory. And then there's Lisa the painful, which comes after that, and it's Brad, like, in the future in the post apocalyptic place, whatever. And So so one day, Brad was living with his friend or his friend's Sticky Cheeks and other guy. I forget his name.
[00:17:32] - [Aaron]
So is it Sticky Cheeks or Sticky and Cheeks?
[00:17:34] - [Beth]
It's it there's there's three guys that he lives with, Sticky Cheeks and other guy. I forget his name, but
[00:17:41] - [Aaron]
Sticky Cheeks and other guy.
[00:17:43] - [Gerry]
I don't remember
[00:17:43] - [Beth]
his name at all.
[00:17:44] - [Gerry]
It's not a big deal. It's just a bunch of guys moving up. One of the guys' name is Sticky
[00:17:47] - [Beth]
It doesn't matter at
[00:17:48] - [Gerry]
all. You figure it out. You you fill in the blanks. Yeah. I was I am.
[00:17:52] - [Gerry]
We have been. You know what I'm saying? They all
[00:17:55] - [Beth]
die at the beginning, so it doesn't fucking matter.
[00:17:57] - [Gerry]
Oh.
[00:17:58] - [Beth]
Yeah. So so poor sticky One day, Brad finds a baby girl, names her buddy, and she's, like, the last last girl on Yeah. The Buddy. Just so, like, if you gave her a girl name or something like that
[00:18:12] - [Gerry]
Yeah.
[00:18:12] - [Beth]
Would draw that would draw attention to her. Because you can imagine, you know, a world full of guys, world full of, like, sexually deprived guys. You could only imagine what they would do to the last girl on the planet. Shouldn't have to say,
[00:18:25] - [Aaron]
but baby?
[00:18:26] - [Beth]
Yeah. She's a baby. Oh. Brad takes her in and raises her because, I mean, he just wants a do over because of what happened in his past. And then, yeah, you get all these flash forwards of Buddy growing up and you see a lot of this isn't
[00:18:46] - [Gerry]
So who the fuck is Lisa?
[00:18:48] - [Beth]
Lisa, that's his sister from the the prologue from, like, the the Lisa part. You see, like, little bits and, like, pieces of his whole backstory and Lisa the painful, but, you know, Lisa is his sister that Right. That killed herself, basically, like
[00:19:05] - [Gerry]
So now what I wanna know, because I feel like you've given us enough of the the story and the type of context that you've been into with this game. I'm interested, and I'm sure the listeners will probably be interested. What is it play like? Like, is is the is the gameplay actually good? Or is it just worth it to play the story?
[00:19:24] - [Gerry]
Really?
[00:19:25] - [Beth]
It's so good. It's it's the turn based RPG, but with a couple cool twists. So first off, your your main dude, Brad, he can do, like, combos in combat. So you select his regular attack and he has different attacks mapped to the face buttons, you know, a b x y, shit like that. And you can by pressing certain combinations of buttons, you can do cool, I guess, like, moves like a fireball or machine gun punches or buster punches or, like, a drop kick, shit like that.
[00:19:56] - [Beth]
And you can you can do them from your normal attack menu for for less MP or SP or whatever it's called, or you can do them from your special moves menu for a little bit more. But then there are so many fucking characters that you can recruit in this game, and it's it's given me big, like, Chrono Cross withdrawal because that game also had a gigantic cast.
[00:20:21] - [Gerry]
But Really?
[00:20:21] - [Beth]
Yeah. But
[00:20:22] - [Gerry]
have you ever played Suikoden?
[00:20:25] - [Beth]
I've tried the first one, but I think it put it down because I was distracted with something else. I do need to play those games really bad.
[00:20:33] - [Gerry]
I I'll say, man. If if recruiting a pile of characters that actually have backstories and actually have character, and then I'm just like, yeah, I'm the I'm the chick that does magic that joins you. And like, you know, I'm the I'm the guy that's like the steampunk looking guy. I don't really have anything else interesting to say other than that. Suikoden is really good at, like, everybody you like, you meet somebody.
[00:21:03] - [Gerry]
As soon as you see that they have a portrait, you're like, you're coming.
[00:21:07] - [Beth]
Oh, hell yeah.
[00:21:08] - [Gerry]
That's I'm gonna make sure I get you.
[00:21:10] - [Beth]
Oh, yeah. Same thing in Chrono Yeah. I love that shit.
[00:21:14] - [Gerry]
Beth, have you ever played Chrono Cross or Suikoden?
[00:21:17] - [Beth]
No. I feel Ew. Like you would love Chrono Cross.
[00:21:21] - [Gerry]
I think you'd like it. But
[00:21:24] - [Aaron]
I've wait. Wait. So Chrono Cross is the first one.
[00:21:30] - [Beth]
Second one. No. It's trigger.
[00:21:32] - [Aaron]
Okay. So I tried it at a friend's place.
[00:21:37] - [Gerry]
The PS PS one.
[00:21:38] - [Aaron]
Yeah. That one. So yeah.
[00:21:41] - [Gerry]
Let's cross.
[00:21:42] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And it was okay. I mean, obviously, I didn't I like she was, like, really, like, come back, keep playing kind of thing. Right? Like, you know, when you you are really into something and you want your friend or someone else to experience it because you wanna kinda vampire,
[00:22:01] - [Gerry]
you
[00:22:01] - [Aaron]
know, an emotional vampire of their feelings. Yes. So I I tried a couple of times with it, like a couple plays, and I don't know. I just didn't really connect with it. I also never connected with
[00:22:14] - [Beth]
Trigger?
[00:22:15] - [Aaron]
Chrono Trigger.
[00:22:15] - [Gerry]
Trigger. Yeah.
[00:22:16] - [Aaron]
Either. So I don't know I don't know the disconnect there because I'm a huge turn based fan. Like, love turn based games. I love like, also love strategy stuff. So
[00:22:30] - [Gerry]
You didn't like Sea of Stars. Right? Or did you not play that yet?
[00:22:33] - [Aaron]
No. I didn't like Sea of Stars either. I, like, really bounced off.
[00:22:36] - [Beth]
Me too.
[00:22:36] - [Aaron]
I I played for the first couple of hours.
[00:22:39] - [Gerry]
I had You bounced off a Sea of Stars? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I got,
[00:22:43] - [Beth]
like, three quarters or more through the game, and then I just kind of stopped because it was it was busy work at that point. He had to collect a whole bunch of shit just for something to get to the end or whatever.
[00:22:57] - [Gerry]
But Lisa That's maybe the maybe the disconnect with Chrono Trigger is the fact that Akira Toriyama did the art.
[00:23:04] - [Aaron]
It, like, legit could have been. I know it's sacrilegious, but it like, I it really could have been. I just don't vibe for what like, whatever reason. I just don't vibe with his his art and his stuff. Whenever
[00:23:20] - [Beth]
Thankfully, none of that in Cross.
[00:23:23] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And that's Yeah.
[00:23:25] - [Gerry]
There's yeah.
[00:23:26] - [Aaron]
So, like, I I but I played more of Cross than I did Chrono Trigger, but I just I don't know. There was something with it. I do know I know that, like, the twist, so that kind of also ruins Okay. It a little.
[00:23:39] - [Gerry]
I like Chrono Cross. I don't love it, though. I love the look of it, and I love the, like, the direction that the game goes. I do not like that battle system.
[00:23:50] - [Beth]
It's so it's so fun to tinker with when you get into it, but we'll we'll reel it back into Lisa, though, before I start going off on one about Chrono Cross.
[00:24:00] - [Gerry]
The Grateful.
[00:24:01] - [Beth]
The characters in Lisa, like, there there's oodles of them, and they all have unique play styles. And it it lets you really fine tune the makeup of your party to just, like, do the finest extent. You you have four party members including Brad. You can never switch out Brad for anybody, but Brad's good. So why take him out?
[00:24:23] - [Beth]
There's Yeah. Oodles of, like, healing characters. Like, one of my favorites is this guy, Birdie. He has no basic attack. His basic attack is just him taking a swig of booze and charges up his his t p meter.
[00:24:37] - [Beth]
That's another thing too, by the way. There's some characters that use s p, which is just like m p, where they use a move, it goes down by that amount. There's some characters that have what's called TP where, like, when they take damage or they hit an enemy with a basic attack, their t Toilet toilet power. What? The TP goes And then
[00:24:54] - [Aaron]
Yeah. Thanks.
[00:24:55] - [Beth]
And then they use to move and it goes down. But yeah. So so Birdie takes a swig of booze, TP goes up, and then he has moves like drunken tackle where he just throws his body at an enemy and does damage. And, like
[00:25:07] - [Aaron]
That's true tactical point.
[00:25:09] - [Beth]
And the the more drunk he is, the more damage he'll do, or he can spit alcohol at somebody, or he can share his booze with the teammates and do a party wide heel. That's cool.
[00:25:21] - [Gerry]
That's so funny.
[00:25:22] - [Beth]
There's, yeah, there's a shit ton of characters to recruit. They all do something different for your party, and it's it's always fun to figure out, like or it's always fun to to recruit these new characters and then go through the skills menu and look and see what they do, see if that'll benefit you in some way. If not, they can fucking hit the bricks. I'll keep my current party of four. Thank you very much.
[00:25:44] - [Beth]
What's his name? Farty Hernandez. All he does is summons trucks. There's a character named Farty Hernandez, and his special moves is he just summons a fucking cargo truck to run over your enemies. It's like
[00:25:56] - [Aaron]
That's kind of
[00:25:58] - [Beth]
cool, but, like, it doesn't do a whole lot. It just
[00:26:01] - [Gerry]
Yeah. How how long is this game?
[00:26:04] - [Beth]
Like, at max, I wanna say fifteen hours. One five, fifteen.
[00:26:09] - [Gerry]
Yeah. So that's oh, man. And then I kinda like a nice tight turn based.
[00:26:14] - [Beth]
And if you go to the joyful, that's like five hours max.
[00:26:21] - [Gerry]
Okay. So you're looking at, like epilogue? Yep. Yeah. That's, like, the epilogue you said?
[00:26:25] - [Beth]
It takes place right after painful.
[00:26:29] - [Gerry]
So that's pretty cool then. Like, I I genuinely really like, one of the things I like a lot about Chrono Trigger is that I mean, your first initial playthrough of Chrono Trigger without, like, a guide or anything like that, you're probably only gonna get, like, I don't know,
[00:26:47] - [Beth]
fifteen, eighteen Real hours quick.
[00:26:50] - [Gerry]
Out of that game. But if you start to realize like, oh, there's a pile of stuff that I didn't do and that I can alter, like, these endings, and, like, there's a there's there's a pile of stuff that you can do extra in the game, which can probably bring it up closer to, like, 30. But, like, I don't know. I just I like it. I like a short turn based game for some reason.
[00:27:13] - [Gerry]
It's part of the reason why I wanted to start Live Alive. Oh. Because I know that that game's not very long. I haven't. I'm like I've I've already started it and did one of the fighting guy.
[00:27:26] - [Gerry]
I did his story. Yeah. It's cool. But yeah. Anyways, at least Yep.
[00:27:33] - [Gerry]
That's pretty I wanna I wanna get this game or why I have the game. I wanna fucking start.
[00:27:38] - [Beth]
Do it do it in that short like fifteen hour playthrough. You'll get like I don't Beth, have you ever beaten Mother three or I'm trying to think of, like, other super emotional stories like Amori or anything like that. No. Shit. Well, the ending of probably not just the ending, but like the whole the whole story all the way through with Lisa the painful hits you like a truck the whole entire time, like Mother three's ending, like the entire game, like, you're just gonna feel crushed by the end of that game.
[00:28:11] - [Beth]
I Mhmm. It's it's insane how, like, short that game is and how quickly it builds up the story and gets you caught up with Brad's backstory and, like, everybody even, like, even all your party members, like, you don't there's no, like, long ass cutscenes to explain any of their backstory or anything like that. But you get little snippets of it Mhmm. Here and there through, like, cutscene dialogue or, like, after you finish a battle, your party members will spout out some little one liner about the battle or something. But you learn so much about all these characters in such a short little playthrough, dude.
[00:28:46] - [Beth]
It's it's definitely worth putting a little bit of time. Well, not a little bit of time. Putting the time into it.
[00:28:53] - [Aaron]
Yeah. That's there's oh my gosh. What's it called? There's another game that I wanna play that like speaking of turn based and emotional devastation.
[00:29:06] - [Gerry]
Go on.
[00:29:08] - [Aaron]
Oh, gosh. It's called In Stars in Time.
[00:29:12] - [Beth]
Oh, I've heard of that. Cool. Yep.
[00:29:14] - [Gerry]
I dude, I yep. I've heard about this thing.
[00:29:20] - [Aaron]
Yeah. So I I, like, it caught my eye last year. I think when it was coming out or came out. Can't remember.
[00:29:29] - [Gerry]
I think it was 2023.
[00:29:30] - [Aaron]
Oh, well then it caught my eye. It only caught my eye last year. I think it I'd maybe I just seen that it was coming to the Switch or something. I can't remember. But there was, like, for some reason, it was, like, all of a sudden, like, on my my Switch recommendations and things like that.
[00:29:46] - [Aaron]
So regardless, I so I I, like, was, this seems interesting. You know? And then I had a friend who played it earlier this year, and he messaged me and was like, you gotta play this. Like, you have to play this. It's so good, but also, like, he's like he was dealing with, like, a really stressful point in time because he, you know, had kind of, like, his kind of sense of safety, like, in where he was living uprooted.
[00:30:21] - [Beth]
Oh.
[00:30:22] - [Aaron]
And so he was, like, dealing with a lot of anxiety. And he was, like, one of those people that it's like it takes a while for him to get comfortable in a space, so there's, like, a lot of changes. Don't he he just doesn't vibe really well with it. And he played it during that time, and he was like, I should not have played no. You do have to play this, but I shouldn't have played this right now.
[00:30:42] - [Aaron]
Like, he was like, it it's emotionally too much for me. Like, he was like, I the the things that they're talking about, I can't do right now. So I was like, okay. You've got me. I'll I'll play.
[00:30:56] - [Aaron]
So it's definitely been on my radar. I really
[00:31:00] - [Gerry]
want When you play it, let me know, and I'll play it at the same time.
[00:31:03] - [Beth]
Okay. Yeah. You also need to play Amori, Beth, because, like, that game, the good ending I don't know
[00:31:08] - [Gerry]
how that I don't know if I wanna play Amori.
[00:31:11] - [Beth]
It's so good. Like, it's not as, like, how I guess, like, mature or, like, as dark as Lisa or maybe, like, mother three, but it's it's uplifting as shit. And, like, I think it's really easy to get the good ending in Omori, and when you do, dude, it makes you feel so good.
[00:31:32] - [Aaron]
Yeah. That's like, I know that, like, you know, I've had conversations or at least, like, Jerry and Greg have said, like, you know, oh, you like things that are emotionally painful. Like, you know, oh, you like this because it it, like, is fucked up or you whatever. Like this because it's And I do you understand why my taste and things would get come across that way? But I like catharsis is really the thing that is is that I'm seeking.
[00:32:02] - [Aaron]
And to get that you have like, I love stuff that is, like, truly, like, you know, emotionally devastating, but the ending is, like, uplifting or the ending really comes together and stuff like that. It's like, I so it's like, I I don't think you can have like, you can't really have catharsis without, like, the the angst or the pain or the whatever. So it's like, I don't that's not I don't like emotionally devastating things because they're emotionally devastating. I like emotionally devastating things because of the feeling you get when they, like, they get through it. Right?
[00:32:36] - [Aaron]
So
[00:32:37] - [Gerry]
Oh.
[00:32:38] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And I've heard I've heard people talk about Maury.
[00:32:40] - [Gerry]
It's it's awesome.
[00:32:41] - [Beth]
It's just without spoiling anything, it's about, like, four friends who grew up together, and then they split apart because of reasons. And, like, that kinda resonated with me a little bit too. But, yeah, also, Jerry, look outside is on sale for $7 on Steam, and I bought it.
[00:33:02] - [Gerry]
Already got it. I got it. Oh, you got it? Because of you. Oh, because I picked it up too.
[00:33:09] - [Gerry]
So I guess we should probably play that, like, now ish and talk about
[00:33:15] - [Beth]
it. Hell, yeah. We can do it.
[00:33:16] - [Gerry]
Because I've been I've been eyeballing this game for a minute.
[00:33:19] - [Aaron]
Turn the podcast off. Just go.
[00:33:22] - [Gerry]
And I, like, have genuinely heard nothing but praise for this game and that it is genuinely, like, pretty creepy.
[00:33:30] - [Beth]
Yeah. Just the screenshots on Steam alone made me think like
[00:33:33] - [Gerry]
It's insane looking, man.
[00:33:34] - [Beth]
It reminds me of that what was that? There was that, like, Garfield Game Boy Color looking ass video where it's like where it's like Jon going into the basement to fight like monster Cthulhu Garfield or something. Oh, what is it called? Oh, shit.
[00:33:55] - [Gerry]
I don't I don't know what the fuck talking.
[00:33:57] - [Aaron]
Thing to Google.
[00:33:58] - [Gerry]
Oh, yeah. I'll look it up for you guys. Lou Garfield, think should probably be Might not be a lot of searches. No.
[00:34:05] - [Beth]
I'm sure I'll find it real easily, but that's that's it for for Lisa. So
[00:34:18] - [Gerry]
Upon Aaron's request I've had a few requests this week. Aaron had requested that I play The Binding of Isaac. Oh.
[00:34:28] - [Aaron]
What a goal.
[00:34:30] - [Gerry]
I've never played I mean, I've seen the game. I may I may have played it, like, once. But recently, my surge in roguelikes has gone way up. Mhmm. So I've been just playing all the roguelikes and trying them all out.
[00:34:48] - [Gerry]
And if you go back to our last episode where Aaron and I did oops all roguelikes for the entire episode, and we just talked about roguelikes, that was one of the things that he said, that I need to go play The Binding of Isaac. And I am here to report that I beat that motherfucker on my first try.
[00:35:06] - [Beth]
Fuck yeah. What? I put the Garfield thing in the chat, by the way.
[00:35:10] - [Aaron]
Easy. Okay.
[00:35:13] - [Gerry]
Yeah. That's weird. I I I just threw it on last night. It's been in my library forever. It's just one of those I think it's like one of the first games I bought when I had built a PC just because I was like, oh my god.
[00:35:26] - [Gerry]
Why are the games so cheap on PC? And I just went on a spree of buying games.
[00:35:31] - [Beth]
So you go to the dollar store, and you're like, look at all these noodles. They're only $1. And you're like
[00:35:35] - [Gerry]
Look at all these. Into the cart. Dude, it was kinda like I I have so many random weird ass things in my library from, like, 2014 or '13 or whenever it was that I built that PC
[00:35:46] - [Beth]
Oh, yeah.
[00:35:48] - [Gerry]
Where I was just like, oh my god. This game is only $3? How can that be possible? Because, like, back then, the game the Steam sales were, like, unrivaled. Like, those sales didn't come to consoles the same way.
[00:36:03] - [Gerry]
It's only been recently that games have been, like, so heavily discounted to match how insane the PC prices are, which, you know, side note, I had this conversation with somebody recently. They were like, oh, I gotta stay on PC, man. Actually, it was my buddy. He was like, I gotta stay on PC because the games are so cheap. And I was like, it's not really a it's not really the the thing anymore.
[00:36:24] - [Gerry]
I feel like like if the game gets dis like, I bet you any money. If Lisa is 30% off on Steam right now, I bet you it's 30% off on Switch, it's 30% off on PlayStation. It's it's like games just fucking go on sale with deep discounts now anyways across the whole
[00:36:42] - [Aaron]
I've noticed that too where recently, like, I have I get notifications because I have the PlayStation app when things that are on my wish list there go on sale. And I've noticed that when something's on sale on PlayStation, it tends to be on sale on Steam and vice versa. I'm sure they have, like, some type of business thing or,
[00:37:06] - [Gerry]
like, a marketing thing where, like, like, Yeah. Like, it's promotional. Right? Like, where it's like, oh, hey, everybody's getting together and putting on a sale next month. So, like, we should throw a couple of trinkets in.
[00:37:19] - [Gerry]
And then it's like, yeah, here you go. Here's 30% off this game. Or there could be, like, 25% off the series or whatever. Like, if it's Trails in the Sky or something. Right?
[00:37:28] - [Gerry]
Like, where it's, like, a a larger franchise.
[00:37:30] - [Aaron]
And Resident Evil is, like, on sale, like,
[00:37:32] - [Gerry]
every It's on sale all the fucking time, man. You get, like dude, you can get Resident Evil seven now for, like, $8.
[00:37:37] - [Beth]
Holy Almost
[00:37:39] - [Gerry]
always. Like, it's actually, I don't know if that's
[00:37:42] - [Aaron]
I don't think it's 8, but it's like 13 or 14.
[00:37:44] - [Gerry]
Dude, it's been it's it's been it's been really fucking low in in the the like, I bet you I can look right now. Resid I
[00:37:54] - [Beth]
will say, though, that if there's one area where PC excels far beyond any console, it's like accessibility of damn near any game. Because I mean, you got Gog right there. You've got fucking itch dot over there. You've got, like, I mean, of course, emulators and shit because if you try to put an emulator on a console, they're Microsoft is gonna come to your house and, like, nail your feet to the floor and be like, why? Why did you put RetroArch on my Xbox?
[00:38:24] - [Beth]
Hey,
[00:38:26] - [Gerry]
Aaron and Beth. Yo.
[00:38:27] - [Aaron]
Yes.
[00:38:28] - [Gerry]
Let's let's play the game. So how much do you think the historical low is for Resident Evil seven on PC?
[00:38:46] - [Aaron]
On PC.
[00:38:48] - [Gerry]
Historical low on PC.
[00:38:50] - [Aaron]
The lowest it's ever been.
[00:38:51] - [Gerry]
Ever been, which was a year ago.
[00:38:53] - [Beth]
$4.99, Jerry. Wait. Wait. Is this in is is this going to be in Canadian dollar? No.
[00:39:01] - [Beth]
$4.99, whatever. I don't give a shit. $4.99.
[00:39:04] - [Aaron]
I'd say, like, 15.
[00:39:07] - [Gerry]
$5.99. So Aaron's very close.
[00:39:10] - [Aaron]
Very close.
[00:39:11] - [Gerry]
We can check
[00:39:12] - [Beth]
Give me my card.
[00:39:13] - [Gerry]
The PlayStation four and five. Historical low, which is currently active. $10.79.
[00:39:23] - [Aaron]
Okay. Yeah. So That's kinda worse.
[00:39:25] - [Gerry]
Quite as deep as the PlayStation. And then on the Xbox, Xbox has seen it as low as $9.71. Okay. Mhmm. And the Nintendo Switch has had it as low as twelve forty nine.
[00:39:42] - [Gerry]
Okay. But I would never play it on the Nintendo Switch. No. I would advise against playing this game on the Nintendo Switch. It's one of those I I don't know how these games work.
[00:39:54] - [Gerry]
These cloud games, it's one of those.
[00:39:56] - [Beth]
I've never played those. I
[00:39:59] - [Gerry]
think they're like, don't you, like, stream those or something? Yeah. That's Yeah. It seems like a bad idea. Don't do it.
[00:40:05] - [Gerry]
Don't do it. Don't do it as bait.
[00:40:08] - [Beth]
I'm happy for your first class beat, though. Like, that shit gets Finding advice, like, first try.
[00:40:13] - [Gerry]
Harder. Is that Yeah. It'll get because, like, I mean, I'm good. Yeah. I I did I did the one thing and I was like, oh, okay.
[00:40:24] - [Gerry]
I've seen credits and then I've seen people being like, oh, no. You get like it is just getting started. I was like, well, I'm just getting finished. Like, I am out.
[00:40:35] - [Aaron]
You can't ask Jerry to do a second playthrough or playthrough something again. No. Like give people shit for it when he does it and they don't.
[00:40:46] - [Beth]
Call him out.
[00:40:47] - [Gerry]
Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.
[00:40:50] - [Gerry]
So I just I'd like it was fine.
[00:40:55] - [Beth]
Yeah. Like,
[00:40:56] - [Gerry]
it's not something that I wanna spend a bunch of time on. I've also beat Dead Cells recently Oh,
[00:41:02] - [Beth]
yeah.
[00:41:02] - [Gerry]
Which was good. And then I threw on with a buddy. We both picked up Vagante.
[00:41:12] - [Beth]
Dude Yep.
[00:41:13] - [Gerry]
Let me tell you about this fucking game. It didn't it didn't make the cut for when we were talking about our roguelikes in the last episode. It kinda did. It
[00:41:22] - [Beth]
sorta did,
[00:41:23] - [Gerry]
but I didn't really have a chance to really dig into it. And now that I have, like, it really is it's spelunky with stats.
[00:41:32] - [Beth]
Okay.
[00:41:33] - [Gerry]
Like, you you'll pick up, like, armor, and it'll be like, oh, this this gives you, like, plus two defense, but also now you can double jump, or, like, now you can jump higher. Maybe now, like, you don't take fall damage. Like, all of all the armor that you pick up has, like, a stat and then there's cursed armor. So, like, the other cool thing is that when you pick things up, you actually don't know what they do. They'll all say, like, unidentified until you start
[00:42:02] - [Beth]
pick up
[00:42:02] - [Aaron]
D and D sorry.
[00:42:03] - [Gerry]
And then you gotta, like, pick up these scrolls Mhmm.
[00:42:06] - [Aaron]
And
[00:42:08] - [Gerry]
you don't know what the scrolls do either, but the scrolls typically don't do anything negative. So you can use a scroll and then finally, like, oh, that I I just picked up the red scrolls on this run are now identify scrolls. So, like Oh, okay. You have to use an identify scroll and, like, take it and put it on to, like, this sword. Normally, I'm I'm usually pretty chill about weapons and stuff.
[00:42:30] - [Gerry]
Like, if it's cursed, whatever, I'll I'll deal with it. But, like,
[00:42:35] - [Beth]
curse of brain worms and you're just, like, your brain
[00:42:38] - [Gerry]
is just like swelling up.
[00:42:40] - [Beth]
At least I can kill anything in one hit.
[00:42:43] - [Gerry]
But, like, the the the potions that you pick up, that's what can really fuck you up because, like, it could be like plus two dexterity or you're now poisoned. So, like, you kinda wanna check those first. And then, you know, like, when you beat a level, when you go through and you find the exit, and that's why it's very much like spelunky, like you're looking for the exit, but you also kinda wanna fight as many guys as you can find so that you can build up your experience points so that you can level up at the bonfire. So when you find the exit, you go to the intermission level, and that's basically where, like, if your friend died, you would revive them there, but it takes 10 of your health to bring them back. So then you can sit at the the bonfire, you get, I think, 20 health back, and then you can level up if you've gained enough experience from the last run and so on and so forth.
[00:43:35] - [Gerry]
Very fun co op game. Extremely fun co op game. There is still nothing that has beat Absalom yet for me.
[00:43:43] - [Beth]
I'm not a rogue heroes, you son of a bitch.
[00:43:46] - [Gerry]
No. It's way better than rogue heroes. Oh. Way better, dude.
[00:43:50] - [Beth]
Oh, I still need to buy
[00:43:50] - [Gerry]
Way better. That said, I picked up Hades too.
[00:43:55] - [Beth]
Oh. Alright. How are I?
[00:43:58] - [Gerry]
I mean, I figured I'm in I'm all in on these fucking roguelikes now. May as well play, like, what is considered the best roguelike of all time from a lot of
[00:44:06] - [Beth]
people that I've heard. Speaking of all this shit, I just saw today that Vampire Survivors is getting a Belacho crossover, and then the the the official Belacho Blue Sky account posted
[00:44:19] - [Gerry]
this fucking picture of, like,
[00:44:21] - [Beth]
the the Belacho clown guy making out with, like, a vampire guy.
[00:44:25] - [Aaron]
Oh my god. That's so funny.
[00:44:27] - [Beth]
That was awesome. I love that so much.
[00:44:30] - [Aaron]
Oh my god.
[00:44:30] - [Gerry]
I would find this infinitely more entertaining if I liked Bellatro. I'm not saying it's a bad game. I just did not care.
[00:44:38] - [Beth]
That's alright. That's alright. Back to Hades two.
[00:44:42] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Hades two. I picked it up. I haven't tried it yet, but
[00:44:46] - [Beth]
At least you got it.
[00:44:47] - [Gerry]
It it's on the dockets, but not before Ninja Gaiden four, baby. Yes. You wanna know what? That game's got some fucking jiggle physics. Motherfuck.
[00:45:01] - [Beth]
And this is the the new three d one. Right? Not the new two d one?
[00:45:06] - [Gerry]
I said out loud. Yeah. This is three. Ragebound so we got three Ninja Gaiden games, I think, this year. Ragebound.
[00:45:16] - [Aaron]
A remake?
[00:45:18] - [Gerry]
Ninja Gaiden four. Oh, and Ninja Gaiden Black. Two black. Yeah. Okay.
[00:45:22] - [Gerry]
Yeah. The remake of two. Ninja Gaiden
[00:45:25] - [Beth]
They're confusing me with all the fucking ninjas. Ninjas.
[00:45:28] - [Gerry]
Yeah. There's
[00:45:29] - [Aaron]
there's Too many ninjas.
[00:45:31] - [Gerry]
Three ninja Gaiden games. There's a Shinobi game Yep. Which you played, which It was excellent. I need I need to play because I I love a Metroidvania. Goddamn it.
[00:45:43] - [Gerry]
I wonder if there's more ninja
[00:45:44] - [Beth]
games that we haven't
[00:45:45] - [Gerry]
that we haven't picked up yet. Probably. What am I I'm playing Blade Chimera now too.
[00:45:53] - [Beth]
I've heard of that. That sounds familiar.
[00:45:55] - [Gerry]
Really good Metroidvania so far. Yeah. Very Symphony of the Night style Nice. If that's what you're into, which you know what? Don't don't be folks, don't be afraid.
[00:46:06] - [Gerry]
Like, I feel like a lot of times, like, Symphony of the Night kinda gets, like it's obvious that it's it's a masterpiece, but, like, sometimes it's one of those games that's so good that it it gets called down. Do you know what I mean?
[00:46:17] - [Beth]
Like Yeah.
[00:46:18] - [Gerry]
There's so many games like that. Like, I get that like, I hear that all the time about Final Fantasy seven, not Rebirth, not that one. I mean, the original. People are always like, yeah, that game's overrated. And it's like, okay, like, that's your opinion, but millions of people think not that opinion.
[00:46:37] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Yeah.
[00:46:38] - [Aaron]
Like, I don't like the remake or the original, but I'm not gonna go around saying
[00:46:42] - [Gerry]
You don't like the original? I thought you liked the original. No. Why were you so hype about the re remake? Because
[00:46:48] - [Beth]
she likes cloud.
[00:46:51] - [Aaron]
Well, to not I liked I don't okay. Really brief. Really brief. Because this could be a full tangent.
[00:46:59] - [Gerry]
Bulma briefs.
[00:47:01] - [Aaron]
I enjoyed the world that Final Fantasy seven created with
[00:47:05] - [Beth]
its Oh.
[00:47:06] - [Aaron]
Offshoot games. So I I really like the whole universe and the world that around it. I didn't necessarily I didn't really like seven much, but I liked the world. And then
[00:47:17] - [Gerry]
You like Crisis Core. I like Crisis Core.
[00:47:20] - [Aaron]
I like Trace Core. I like Advent Children even. I I didn't hate watching.
[00:47:26] - [Gerry]
I should do a watch party of Final Fantasy seven Advent Children.
[00:47:30] - [Beth]
Should we? That. Should we do that? Yeah. Why not?
[00:47:33] - [Gerry]
I'll do that.
[00:47:34] - [Aaron]
I'll do it. But what I I was gonna say is that what I liked about seven remake, like, the first one was I really enjoyed that they were, like, being, like, the acknowledge of the old gate like, timeline existing and then kind of really delving into, you know, Red and Aerith having this, like, this knowledge and connection and same with, like, Sephiroth and everything like that. And then breaking the timeline in a sense so that they could, like, create something new. And this idea of remake, not being a remake of seven, but a remake of this this story. And then for Rebirth, just to literally
[00:48:17] - [Gerry]
Oh, you took the bait so hard.
[00:48:18] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And then Rebirth was just more of it was just Final Fantasy seven, but every now and again, they would say something totally batshit insane that I'm like, it doesn't need to be here. And then they got rid of Aerith they got rid of Aerith and Red having any knowledge of the thing, which I'm like, okay. Well, then you just got rid of something that could have been interesting. So I just feel like they took something that could have what I liked.
[00:48:43] - [Aaron]
It could expand it even more and gone even, like, done a bunch more interesting things in this world that I find fun for them to keep going back to and playing in and just kind of kind of chickened out. They, like, I think I really feel like they pulled back on doing, like, stuff that was unique and creative, and I think I think they took the fucking bitch move, and I don't like it. I just
[00:49:07] - [Gerry]
felt like didn't hold back on? They didn't hold back on that Mount Glug fucking song. Yeah. Because god damn it, that slaps hard.
[00:49:14] - [Aaron]
The music is good, and it's always been good.
[00:49:17] - [Gerry]
Oh, the music is amazing in that game.
[00:49:18] - [Aaron]
Yeah. But, anyways, the But, like whatever we're saying.
[00:49:22] - [Gerry]
Yeah. So, like, I feel like Symphony of the Night kinda gets this weird, like, you know, oh, there's too many of those. It's like, yeah, there is. But, like, if something good comes along and it's like Symphony of the Night, just let it be good. Just let it be fucking good.
[00:49:38] - [Gerry]
Yeah, man. Like, it does feel a lot like Symphony of the Night. But, yeah, check out check out that game, Aaron. I think you would really like it.
[00:49:45] - [Beth]
Blade Chimera.
[00:49:47] - [Gerry]
Blade Chimera.
[00:49:48] - [Beth]
Feel like it's gotta already be on my wish list, but
[00:49:51] - [Gerry]
it's pretty
[00:49:51] - [Aaron]
Since you're into roguelikes and stuff, now, did you ever play Enter the Gungeon?
[00:49:59] - [Gerry]
Yes. Oh, yeah. We own was like, I even talk about that a little I own it.
[00:50:04] - [Aaron]
Okay. Because I was gonna say that would have been a good one
[00:50:06] - [Gerry]
too. Fucking tough. Yeah. Jesus Christ.
[00:50:09] - [Aaron]
Rogue like with a friend.
[00:50:12] - [Gerry]
It's couch co op. Well, it's only couch co op.
[00:50:15] - [Aaron]
Oh, really?
[00:50:16] - [Beth]
Yep. Tier.
[00:50:18] - [Gerry]
Uh-huh. Only couch co op. Same thing with Children of Morta. Yep. Aaron and I bought that on sale.
[00:50:25] - [Gerry]
Didn't check because it said co op. Were like, woo. We did the same thing that It you and I was Resident Evil Revelations two. I also did that with
[00:50:33] - [Beth]
my brother-in-law one time. We bought Revelations one and two and we were like,
[00:50:38] - [Gerry]
yeah, they're only fucking couch co op for some reason.
[00:50:41] - [Beth]
So we were like, well,
[00:50:42] - [Gerry]
it doesn't make sense.
[00:50:42] - [Beth]
Fucking motherfucker come over, I guess. And we ate like an entire bag of chicken nuggets and played Revelations two.
[00:50:48] - [Aaron]
What? And it makes me mad because Claire's my favorite Resident Evil character, and I spent years screaming from the like, a lunatic about how I was, like, Alex Wesker's alive. Like, I was and then and then it happened. And then it was, like, in in this co op game that I couldn't play with anybody because I don't have friends who live near me.
[00:51:10] - [Gerry]
Damn. Yeah. So besides all that, man, Ninja Gaiden four, though.
[00:51:24] - [Beth]
So I've heard.
[00:51:25] - [Gerry]
When platinum hits, dude, when platinum fucking hits right, Oh, man. Do they hit right? Holy shit. Does this game fuck hard? Like, it is insanely good.
[00:51:40] - [Aaron]
It fucks.
[00:51:41] - [Gerry]
It fucks real fucking hard. Money. It's yeah. It's a platinum games and it it sure as shit feels like one. Like, it feels like and dude, you have no idea this fucking soundtrack.
[00:52:02] - [Gerry]
They literally said they wanted to make it sound like modern metal with, like, agony and sorrow. So it's like gent and fucking like
[00:52:14] - [Beth]
Holy shit.
[00:52:14] - [Gerry]
Deathcore. But it's like, oh, like it's insane, dude. Operatic. Oh my god. It is so cray like, the first boss, I just laid the controller down.
[00:52:25] - [Gerry]
I was like, are you fucking serious right now with this music? Like, I was like entranced by how good the music was. But besides all that, yes, jiggle physics is most definitely a thing. It is back Nice. Nice.
[00:52:42] - [Gerry]
The first, I wanna say, five minutes of turning this game on, I literally, I'm not kidding, out loud said, goddamn. Goddamn. Like, I seen this chick and I was like, okay. Like, I think, like, they they went so far in one direction that it was like, for real, though? I mean, thank you, but
[00:53:10] - [Beth]
it is.
[00:53:11] - [Gerry]
Dude. I sent you a picture. Yep. I sent you a picture. And I was like
[00:53:16] - [Aaron]
Did they also okay. Question. Real quick. Yeah. Did they also make, like, thighs do the jiggle physics?
[00:53:23] - [Gerry]
Oh, it's all jiggling.
[00:53:24] - [Aaron]
Okay.
[00:53:25] - [Gerry]
Everything be jiggled.
[00:53:26] - [Beth]
Jesus Christ.
[00:53:27] - [Gerry]
Like, every character model is just a fucking tray of Jell O.
[00:53:31] - [Aaron]
It's very funny because it it does, like, at some point, I think, go over, like, excessive jizzle physics where it's like the whole everything. Chisel. Did I say jizzle?
[00:53:41] - [Beth]
Uh-oh. That's fine. We've already Chisel. This is already a thing in super ghost. This is almost the title for, I think
[00:53:51] - [Gerry]
yeah. Chisel
[00:53:51] - [Beth]
Physics sells out. That was that was almost the title for that one.
[00:53:54] - [Gerry]
Oh, really? I don't know. Think Beth said that too.
[00:53:56] - [Aaron]
I think probably probably jiggle physics. Jiggle. Jiggle.
[00:54:03] - [Gerry]
Like like Juggalo. Juggalo physics. Juggalo physics. My god. Physics.
[00:54:15] - [Gerry]
Does
[00:54:17] - [Aaron]
it look like to anybody else that they are walking? Like, there's, like, a centralized or a localized, I guess, localized earthquake underneath them. Because sometimes it, like, it gets so ex I've seen games where it's so
[00:54:31] - [Beth]
excessive With so colorful of
[00:54:32] - [Aaron]
two body
[00:54:33] - [Gerry]
that I'm Here's like thing. What's the gentleman's name that just passed away? Itagaki? He he understood jiggle physics. Okay?
[00:54:43] - [Gerry]
Like, he understood. Team Ninja has some of the best jiggle physics I've ever seen. Mhmm. Simply because it's not over like, it it is, but it's not like like shit is just like fucking like you turn around and it's still like going. Like, it's not like that.
[00:54:58] - [Aaron]
They look
[00:54:58] - [Gerry]
look like they're saving on another flight. Birth is like Yeah. That's what I mean. It's like a tray of Jell O. It's not as it's not as exaggerated as that.
[00:55:07] - [Gerry]
Yeah. The the exaggeration comes in just like how big the tits are. It's just
[00:55:14] - [Beth]
like That was the photo.
[00:55:15] - [Gerry]
That's what I mean. I seen this character, went, goddamn. What? Like, are you serious? And then it was, like, front on.
[00:55:24] - [Gerry]
And I went, this is and and then when she turned sideways, was like, oh my god. Like, are you serious with this?
[00:55:32] - [Aaron]
The body is too bootylicious for you.
[00:55:34] - [Gerry]
And she's great. Oh, my God. Sayori? Her character, Beth, I think I think you would actually like this character. I think you would like her, Jerry.
[00:55:43] - [Gerry]
She's fantastic.
[00:55:44] - [Aaron]
I've had this discussion sorry. Go ahead, Anne.
[00:55:46] - [Beth]
No. You're good. Finish your thing, and I'll I'll I'll do mine.
[00:55:49] - [Aaron]
I've had this discussion with you and some people before and everything like that. It's like, I have zero problem with, like, you know Bayonetta. Bayonetta. But, like, that type of, like, character design. Like like, there's nothing wrong with it you create a really good character because then they're not just that.
[00:56:08] - [Aaron]
Right? Like, just don't make a walking pair of boobs. Like Yeah. There are people who have huge tits in real life. They're they're full people.
[00:56:16] - [Aaron]
So it's like They're
[00:56:18] - [Gerry]
full ass people, man. Dits and all. Dits and all. The tits
[00:56:21] - [Aaron]
and all. It's like, if I don't care. It's like, you know, just make sure the character is, like, interesting and well written if you're just going to, like,
[00:56:30] - [Gerry]
if they're
[00:56:31] - [Aaron]
gonna be if they're gonna be there. NPCs or random people in the background, okay, they can just be boobs. But, like, if you're gonna have a central character
[00:56:39] - [Gerry]
That's the thing, though. There's not really, like, any Any person on blame will boobs. Hanging out with. I just get if you're gonna have a
[00:56:45] - [Aaron]
if you're just gonna if you're gonna just put give them a personality if they're just a central character, a main
[00:56:52] - [Gerry]
non playable knockers.
[00:56:54] - [Aaron]
Boot.
[00:56:57] - [Beth]
What I was gonna say though is, Jerry, do I have the perfect character model for you? Look up Ivy from Soul Caliber two, man. Holy
[00:57:05] - [Gerry]
who shit. I I Dude, are you serious?
[00:57:07] - [Beth]
Don't know who the fuck
[00:57:08] - [Gerry]
I mean.
[00:57:09] - [Beth]
Kid me was like, damn. Woah. Like, how old was I when I played this game? Like, 12 or 13 maybe. I was like, goddamn.
[00:57:19] - [Beth]
Alright. Well, I love this game. But look,
[00:57:23] - [Gerry]
you're like, this is how you know you're old. When my first moment of goddamn was with a pair of triangular tits with Lara Croft when I went, oh my god. I don't I don't even know if I could play this game without having a fucking erection right now as a as a fucking I was a teenager.
[00:57:44] - [Beth]
You're a walking erection when you're
[00:57:46] - [Gerry]
a teenager. So you turn this
[00:57:48] - [Beth]
game on and you're like, uh-oh. And you're
[00:57:50] - [Gerry]
like fucking doing like the gotta sit with your arms folded on your lap being like, I can't even play the game.
[00:57:55] - [Aaron]
There's like six polygons. Like, I I I don't
[00:57:59] - [Gerry]
I don't know, dude. There's something it was insane. It was just like,
[00:58:03] - [Beth]
oh, wild time.
[00:58:04] - [Gerry]
How am gonna play this game with my fucking dick out of this?
[00:58:09] - [Beth]
Just flip it up. Flip it up into the waste bin or whatever.
[00:58:12] - [Aaron]
That's so wild.
[00:58:16] - [Gerry]
Look, man. There's nothing wrong with feeling a little rush of blood going to your head and being like, oh, getting a little woozy playing this fucking game right now.
[00:58:25] - [Aaron]
Sure. For like modern games or like maybe even But that
[00:58:30] - [Gerry]
was a modern game at the time. You gotta understand, There's like
[00:58:34] - [Aaron]
I don't I that because I I there there there's there's, like, six picks. Like, they're not even it's not even really
[00:58:42] - [Gerry]
But I'm aware how insane it sounds.
[00:58:44] - [Beth]
Surely, there's been a low poly man that you've like, ohed over something. Surely. Come on. Sephiroth.
[00:58:51] - [Aaron]
Not at
[00:58:52] - [Beth]
Or like
[00:58:52] - [Aaron]
God, no.
[00:58:53] - [Gerry]
No. Leon?
[00:58:55] - [Beth]
No. Oh, yeah. Leon. No.
[00:58:59] - [Gerry]
You you don't got that low poly lust?
[00:59:01] - [Aaron]
I got that
[00:59:02] - [Gerry]
low poly lust. That's the title.
[00:59:04] - [Beth]
Goddamn. That's the title.
[00:59:06] - [Gerry]
I got that low poly lust, dude.
[00:59:08] - [Aaron]
I don't. I don't. I'm so
[00:59:09] - [Gerry]
You showed me six polygons arranged in a triangle, and you got yourself milky nymph. I like Fuck.
[00:59:16] - [Aaron]
My Goddamn. I like I like my my, like, crushes when I was, like, on cartoons or that type of stuff was, like, Tai from Digimon and Inuyasha.
[00:59:28] - [Beth]
Hell, yeah. Like,
[00:59:29] - [Gerry]
I was such harsher
[00:59:31] - [Aaron]
myself. Inuyasha.
[00:59:33] - [Gerry]
I was more
[00:59:34] - [Beth]
of a Mac guy myself.
[00:59:37] - [Aaron]
Not as good.
[00:59:38] - [Gerry]
I had a huge crush on Bulma Briefs when I was a kid.
[00:59:41] - [Aaron]
Yeah. Yeah. But, no, I didn't start developing crushes on video game characters until they started actually looking like people. Sorry. Jesus.
[00:59:53] - [Aaron]
I'm sorry.
[00:59:54] - [Gerry]
Beth would just walk up to Squall and be like, you don't look like a person. I don't find you attractive. You have no face. Is for me. Well,
[01:00:03] - [Aaron]
you know that I, like, I love hair.
[01:00:06] - [Gerry]
And Yes. Squall has amazing hair.
[01:00:07] - [Beth]
You've seen No.
[01:00:10] - [Aaron]
It doesn't it doesn't look good. And especially when they're
[01:00:13] - [Gerry]
No.
[01:00:13] - [Aaron]
Low they're so low poly that when they're standing still sometimes and they're trying to their their pixels of their hair move independently of each other, and it looks like they're shifting. I think it's too silly. I couldn't
[01:00:24] - [Gerry]
God forbid if Beth ever meets a person in the wind and their hair is moving, it's just like, I can't fucking handle your hair moving around like this. God forbid. Everyone looks better indoors.
[01:00:34] - [Beth]
Because she gets across a triangle.
[01:00:36] - [Gerry]
And this is indoor cat. I forgot. She's like, we have one of these. The power of Christ compels you triangle. You're not you do not belong here.
[01:00:48] - [Aaron]
Yeah. I do. I do. I'm like, no. No.
[01:00:51] - [Gerry]
Greg's gonna be very upset that he missed the horny talk.
[01:00:54] - [Beth]
He's had plenty of time. He's might
[01:00:58] - [Gerry]
What's his
[01:00:59] - [Aaron]
day in the sun.
[01:01:01] - [Gerry]
Yeah. He's had his horny talk
[01:01:03] - [Beth]
with his fucking horse girls and shit. Yep. Horse girls. And there's another episode we did. I forget.
[01:01:12] - [Gerry]
Should we do the next oops all just be oops all hand Oops all polygons. Anyway, Ninja Gaiden four. Besides the tits, real good game. Real, real good game. You know what?
[01:01:30] - [Gerry]
If I was to compare it to something, it feels like Metal Gear Rising. Oh. Okay. It's similar to that. And even the soundtrack is kinda like it's very metal metal like Oh, yeah.
[01:01:43] - [Beth]
Metal Gear Rising was insane.
[01:01:46] - [Gerry]
Yeah. That soundtrack was wild. No. This this game has been kind of blowing my mind. Performance on PC, I am happy to report it is rock solid, like, not a single issue.
[01:02:01] - [Beth]
Oh, okay.
[01:02:02] - [Gerry]
I had issues up front, but that was my fault. That was not
[01:02:05] - [Aaron]
my solid, you're rock solid.
[01:02:09] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Checks out. Right?
[01:02:11] - [Aaron]
It tracks.
[01:02:13] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Like, Cara's just gonna bust in the room and I'm gonna be, like, fucking dewy off of scary movie. Just be like, I assume I'm cleaning my room. Get out.
[01:02:23] - [Beth]
You've got the fucking and everything too.
[01:02:29] - [Gerry]
Got the fucking Dyson going. Fucking Roomba.
[01:02:37] - [Aaron]
Don't make us we clear your witness that.
[01:02:40] - [Gerry]
You're a fucking Roomba. You ever get high, look at some jiggle physics, and fuck a Roomba? Oh, it's clear. This I'm at
[01:02:50] - [Beth]
left. Carrot gall.
[01:02:52] - [Gerry]
This is how you clean the Roomba.
[01:02:57] - [Beth]
Oh, Christ.
[01:02:58] - [Gerry]
Beth, are you taking notes? Did you just write that down? Okay. I was gonna say, don't hold any of these things against me.
[01:03:05] - [Beth]
She's gonna testify against you in court.
[01:03:08] - [Aaron]
I don't need to write them down too randomly.
[01:03:13] - [Gerry]
Yeah. They're they're in the public.
[01:03:14] - [Beth]
In the public. Yeah. They're on the website, superghost.site. Listeners, if you ever need something to hold against against
[01:03:19] - [Gerry]
us in court, superghost.site. But, yeah, the the gameplay Don't take us off. Is real tight. It's, like, fantastic. It's what you would expect from a polished platinum game.
[01:03:35] - [Gerry]
Mhmm. So far, I'm playing as this guy who's not the the character that you are expecting to play as.
[01:03:44] - [Beth]
You know Hayabusa?
[01:03:46] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Not him? It's not him. But Beth, this guy?
[01:03:51] - [Aaron]
Yes.
[01:03:51] - [Gerry]
He's got some hair. He's got some good hair. And it's white with a little bit of black. So I feel like he's gonna be the bad guy.
[01:04:02] - [Aaron]
Oh, yeah.
[01:04:03] - [Gerry]
Dude, somebody has white hair in these games. You're like, that's the bad guy. You're the bad guy. That's true.
[01:04:10] - [Aaron]
You're playing as him?
[01:04:11] - [Gerry]
Yeah. You you start as this guy, but I don't really know, like, what his because they even outline, they're like, yeah, your your clan really hates that clan, and the clan that they hate is the one that Ryu is from. So you're like Oh. Wait.
[01:04:24] - [Aaron]
Maybe Ryu
[01:04:25] - [Gerry]
is the bad guy. You do play I mean, I've seen I've seen gameplay with you playing as Ryu.
[01:04:30] - [Aaron]
They decided to take the The Last of Us two method, you know, and and dual protagonist POVs of rival
[01:04:39] - [Gerry]
rival people.
[01:04:42] - [Beth]
I gotta look up. Didn't Devil May Cry four also do that? Did you play as Nero for, like, half the game?
[01:04:48] - [Aaron]
You play as Nero, but I don't know if he's after is he after Dante? I don't remember. Yeah. He is. Is he?
[01:04:56] - [Aaron]
Because he's trying to yeah. Something to do with his girlfriend
[01:04:59] - [Beth]
Yes. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:05:01] - [Beth]
Yeah. Yeah. Also, Jerry, what are the weapons like in this new Ninja Gaiden? Some remember a couple from Ninja Gaiden two, I think, on March or whichever one was on March. Remember the weapons being really fucking cool in that.
[01:05:16] - [Gerry]
So far, I don't have any weapons that are different from the standard blades. Okay. And I don't know if that's just because I'm playing as this guy. Mhmm. But I really like the way and dude, it is like Aaron, you've played plat a platinum game before, right?
[01:05:36] - [Beth]
Oh, many many platinum games.
[01:05:38] - [Gerry]
You know how, like, platinum is like, hey, you know all the face buttons on a controller? You're gonna be using them all. Like, every button like, you're holding a controller like it's a fucking game. Like, you're holding it like it's a promotional video for, like, the fucking Big Mac or something. Like, you have to make sure your hand is just like this the whole time playing one of those games.
[01:05:58] - [Gerry]
And it's super one of those. Like, button you're doing something with every button always. Sorry. Because you can hold the left trigger and it it like, when a certain gauge gets filled up after hitting a bunch of times, that unlocks, like it's still like your attacks, like light and heavy, and then like your dodges and stuff like that. And you could still do the same combos, but it's like this blood blade thing Oh.
[01:06:28] - [Gerry]
And it looks really crazy. And like, there are some wild techniques in this one. Like, one is a full like screen clear if you have enough of this shit built up, and it does like a whole like the screen goes like white, red, and black, and like freezes, and then you just see like a big slash go across the screen, and it just kills like all the guys. And then the level design too is fantastic. And it just feels like you, like, you start off in Tokyo, and it's all, like, corrupted and shit.
[01:07:05] - [Gerry]
And, like, I don't wanna I don't wanna say too much because I feel like it's one of those games that even the environments could be, like, spoilery because it's the awe of taking in it. It's like Platinum does that very well where it's just like these massive set pieces that are as much a part of the experience as the combat and everything is. So I don't I don't wanna say too much about like the environments, just that they are very cool. I'm gonna keep playing this game. I don't think it's I don't think it's terribly long, but I'm gonna keep going.
[01:07:39] - [Beth]
Hell, yeah. It's a
[01:07:40] - [Gerry]
good time. It's a good ass time. Oh, and besides that, just before this podcast, I figured I owed it to mister Greg. He requested that I download a demo for some game called Dino Blade. Okay.
[01:08:01] - [Gerry]
It's it's a dinosaur What? On two legs with a giant, like berserk sword, like the dragon slayer sword in Hell yeah. Its
[01:08:14] - [Beth]
yeah. And
[01:08:15] - [Gerry]
it's Dino Souls and it's not that good. Wanna Do you? I wanna like I wanna like Dino Souls so much, but it's it's pretty rough around the edges.
[01:08:29] - [Beth]
Would have been cooler if there was no sword. If it was just dinos doing dino things
[01:08:33] - [Gerry]
No. Doing dinos. That's the coolest part about it is the fact that there's a dinosaur carrying a giant fucking blade in its mouth. Disagree. That's cool.
[01:08:40] - [Gerry]
And it does look hilarious when it's, like, dodge rolling and it's just, like, flipping around and it's like this fucking Dilophosaurus just, like, fucking flipping around and shit.
[01:08:49] - [Aaron]
Look at my look at my Dilophosaurus.
[01:08:51] - [Gerry]
Look, man.
[01:08:52] - [Beth]
Look at my peckycephalosaurus.
[01:08:54] - [Gerry]
Some people like trains. I like dinosaurs. I dinosaurs.
[01:09:11] - [Beth]
Beth, do you wanna do you wanna share our top five mega evolutions just to kick it all off?
[01:09:16] - [Aaron]
Yeah. Absolutely.
[01:09:19] - [Beth]
We're doing that all before the show. Beth, you do yours first. I'm I'm interested. See what yours are.
[01:09:26] - [Aaron]
Okay. I wrote them down.
[01:09:28] - [Gerry]
Me too. I wrote them down, but on my phone.
[01:09:31] - [Aaron]
That would have been smart. It's okay. Okay. So I only actually wrote down one of the old mega evolution.
[01:09:44] - [Beth]
Oh, shit.
[01:09:46] - [Aaron]
Because I feel like I've said this a few times, but shockingly, I wasn't a big I was not a big fan of Megas as much as the average Pokemon fan. It's just me continuing to have just the worst takes of anything. So but I liked a lot of the new ones. I thought I like some of the new ones. I felt like they moved away from just making them be spiky.
[01:10:17] - [Aaron]
Yep. And I didn't like that. And I was like, I feel like the old ones, just were like, oh, let's just add spikes.
[01:10:24] - [Gerry]
Anyway What kind of spikes?
[01:10:27] - [Beth]
Just look up mega tyranitar and mega aerodactyl, and you'll know. They're they're just Yeah.
[01:10:32] - [Gerry]
They're
[01:10:32] - [Beth]
They're just them, but spikier.
[01:10:35] - [Aaron]
But spikier. And I just was like, I feel like a lot of it is just like them with spikiness. Yep. And I like that then I just wanna quickly say then I like that the new ones that they've added seem to have, like, kind of branched away and have done more creative things or goofy like, leaned into the silly, the goofy, the, like, you know, that as well.
[01:10:54] - [Beth]
Oh, hell yeah. Okay.
[01:10:55] - [Gerry]
What a bullshit mega evolution this Tyranitar is. Yeah. I You said shitty Godzilla.
[01:11:03] - [Aaron]
Like, I went with okay. I'll go this
[01:11:07] - [Gerry]
one. Yes.
[01:11:08] - [Aaron]
I'll pick I'll go I really like the Halucha, Mega Halucha.
[01:11:13] - [Beth]
Yeah. Falucha.
[01:11:14] - [Aaron]
Unbelievably good coloring. Like, the coloring on his just great. Then Scrafty. I like his color.
[01:11:24] - [Beth]
Jerry, what's on your face?
[01:11:26] - [Aaron]
He is he's just desperate for attention. Ignore him.
[01:11:29] - [Beth]
I guess Scrafty is cool. I like his little hoodie that he has on. Reminds me of was that character's name Naveen? It reminds me a lot of Naveen. Also Yeah.
[01:11:39] - [Beth]
That's one thing I've noticed is that a lot of these new megas have, like, characteristics of their trainers, like the Mega Starmie takes after the dancing chick that's in your team and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead.
[01:11:52] - [Aaron]
Yeah. I know I love it. I think it's really smart. I like the the design philosophy a lot more. And then I I do out of this, I love mega Meganium, the new
[01:12:04] - [Beth]
Yep.
[01:12:05] - [Aaron]
One. I like the flowers. Looks like it'd be really comfy comfy on, like, an airplane. I'm in. And then I this is the only one of the old ones that I have is mega Roquaza.
[01:12:18] - [Beth]
He's pretty cool. You know?
[01:12:21] - [Aaron]
Only is he cool, his literate his, like, lore like, the lore behind Mega Rayquaza is, like, really fun. I think, like, it being having to mega evolve to just deal with Kyogre and Groudon's bullshit is hilarious.
[01:12:39] - [Beth]
Oh, I forgot about that.
[01:12:41] - [Aaron]
Yeah. It's like to really just stop them and also, like, to protect fucking the planet from Deoxys, like, you know, so, like, Mega Rayclause, it has to Mega Evolve and stuff. Really cool. And I love Mega Clefable. I like her little French hat.
[01:12:58] - [Beth]
Oh, yeah. The butterfly wings and shit.
[01:13:01] - [Aaron]
Yeah. I like that. She looks like a pixie, and I like the long ears, and I I like the little at first, I thought it was a dollop of whipped cream, I didn't like it. But then when I actually saw it in game, I was like, oh, it's like a French little French hat.
[01:13:13] - [Beth]
Oh, like a what the fuck?
[01:13:15] - [Gerry]
Little Yeah.
[01:13:16] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And I'm
[01:13:17] - [Gerry]
like, oh, that's kinda cute. I like that. Okay.
[01:13:19] - [Aaron]
Those are mine.
[01:13:20] - [Beth]
Okay. I had okay. This is gonna be controversial. I like mega for alligator mostly because I've mostly because I've I use them like all the time. Like, I feel like every fucking rogue mega evolution battle that I I play, I'm using either Mega Camera Upt, which is also one of mine.
[01:13:39] - [Beth]
Mega Camera Upt is cool. I'm using either him or Feraligatr. And the Mega Feraligatr is cool. Mega Scizor is really fucking sweet because he's got the clamps. He's got the clamps like that guy from Futurama.
[01:13:52] - [Beth]
I'll give
[01:13:53] - [Gerry]
him the clamps. Give him the clamps.
[01:13:55] - [Aaron]
Yeah. Yeah.
[01:13:56] - [Beth]
And Mega Gengar because Gengar is my favorite Pokemon and Mega Gengar is just spikier Gengar.
[01:14:03] - [Gerry]
He looks like he's kind of like
[01:14:04] - [Aaron]
a he looks literally looks like a shadow Yeah. That's kind of like coming up. I really do like that. That looks cool.
[01:14:09] - [Beth]
And he has that one move in Pokken Tournament where he like swallows the enemy and then it's like this nightmare madhouse fucking type shit. I'll I'll send a clip of that too because it's really cool. And then the last one is Mega Phalanx. Mega Phalanx is cool.
[01:14:25] - [Aaron]
Oh my gosh. I love Mega Phalanx. I really like I really like the little guy in the middle. He was like He's trying his hardest to like keep the other ones up. Yeah.
[01:14:36] - [Aaron]
Like that, dude. I'm like, he's carrying the team on his back, literally.
[01:14:41] - [Beth]
Mega Phalanx is so cool. That was a
[01:14:44] - [Gerry]
Yeah. I
[01:14:44] - [Beth]
feel like Phalanx as a Pokemon is kinda, like, underappreciated. I I thought it was a really cool design. Really, really agree. I
[01:14:53] - [Aaron]
love I like Phalanx in general, and Mega Phalanx is not I think it's, like, really good design, like, the design philosophy I like. It looks fun and cool, but it also is really funny.
[01:15:06] - [Beth]
Yeah.
[01:15:06] - [Aaron]
Like, it genuinely like, it, like, it has, like, a lot of personality because of that little guy in the middle. Like, you can tell that, like, a lot of other mega evolutions are, like, you know, crazy creatures, you know, or, like, extended things or whatever. I'm like, mega phalanx is like they're like, we're gonna mega guys, we're gonna mega evolve. And it's, like, they're not even really mega evolving. They just all kind of are, like, okay.
[01:15:30] - [Aaron]
Resume a different treat like, a different formation, and let's call that a mega evolution.
[01:15:36] - [Beth]
Like Yeah.
[01:15:37] - [Aaron]
Kind of, like, they're faking. Like, I love it.
[01:15:40] - [Beth]
I kind of wonder what's because in in x and y and, like, Ruby and Sapphire and all those, each of the the Megas, I I guess not all of them have their own unique, like, what are they, abilities. Some of them kind of copy the same ones from other ones, but I wonder what these new ones with their with their abilities would be since there's no abilities in in z a. Like, I wanna know what what that would be.
[01:16:04] - [Aaron]
It will be interesting. I'm sure I I don't think we'll probably see until champions comes out next year.
[01:16:11] - [Beth]
Oh, yeah.
[01:16:12] - [Aaron]
Because then they'll presumably because by then, you'll have home access with z a, and champions is gonna have home access at launch. I I I think that's yeah. Because, like, most of that game is, you know, you're gonna be transferring. You have the whole like, half of it is being able to transfer in your own Pokemon. So I'm sure or that's probably about when we'll see what these new guys abilities are, which will be interesting.
[01:16:45] - [Beth]
And also,
[01:16:47] - [Aaron]
like, on top of that, the buffs that they've given to some of the Pokemon in z a, like, Sableye. Like, they gave Sableye parting shot. Sableye is a prankster has prankster. So prankster parting shot is crazy stuff. That's crazy stuff.
[01:17:06] - [Aaron]
Like, I like, are they gonna actually like, I'm curious to see if they'll actually, like, let Sableye keep that, right, when it it goes into something that is probably gonna be the future competitive circuit. Like, that's nuts. So it'll be really interesting to see, like, what if there's any adjustments that they make from even what they did from z a to champions.
[01:17:28] - [Gerry]
And I I Yeah.
[01:17:29] - [Beth]
I hope to god that mega Feraligatr is dark water. Always thought that Feraligatr should be dark water, but they're like, no. He's just regular.
[01:17:40] - [Aaron]
Did so you're not where are you in the game?
[01:17:45] - [Beth]
I'm at rank b, I think. I've I've been taking a break from it because I'm gonna be honest. I'm getting a little bored of it. And I've been wanting to play Lisa, but we we can save the things we dislike for for later so we can, like, gush about all the cool stuff. But, yeah, just just getting bored.
[01:18:06] - [Beth]
Stop playing for a little bit. Play Lisa. That's where I'm at.
[01:18:09] - [Aaron]
Okay. Yeah. No. I just was curious. I'm I'm done.
[01:18:13] - [Aaron]
I finished not it. I finished it. I finished the post game. The only thing I have left to do is for anyone who has played or knows, I just need to do all of the battle request for Mabel so I can get the shiny charm. So I've kind of just been Oh.
[01:18:32] - [Aaron]
Grinding that out a little bit, You know? But I'm mostly done with the game. I just am doing that usually, like, in between calls and stuff like that during the day so that I can get that. Because I wanna get the shiny charm before the DLC comes out. That's kind of my only goal.
[01:18:49] - [Beth]
DLC?
[01:18:51] - [Gerry]
Mhmm.
[01:18:52] - [Beth]
What?
[01:18:53] - [Aaron]
Yeah. You the What? The DLC is coming out. There's gonna be says that it's coming out before Pokemon Day, and it's going to we don't know too much about it right now, but there's a part of the Terra leaks had some spoilers for it, which I don't once again, don't know if that's those are just the designs or the ideas behind it and there's gonna be something different. But that was leaked along with all of the new Mega Evolutions that are gonna be coming with the DLC.
[01:19:23] - [Beth]
Holy shit. More new Megas?
[01:19:26] - [Aaron]
More new Megas, a bunch more side quests, a whole new story and stuff. I'm excited for that too because I love Poopa and his shenanigans, and it's gonna be all about Poopa just causing problems. And for Jerry, if you don't know, Poopa as a Pokemon is similar to, like, the Loki of Pokemon. He just is like a trickster god type deal and just causes problems for people.
[01:19:51] - [Gerry]
I like it.
[01:19:52] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And so the the DLC is going to be him showing Hoopa shows up and starts causing essentially, like, dimensional portals to
[01:20:00] - [Beth]
I thought you
[01:20:01] - [Gerry]
were saying hookah at first.
[01:20:02] - [Beth]
Oh, The dimensional god.
[01:20:04] - [Gerry]
Hoopa.
[01:20:06] - [Beth]
That'd be that'd be really cool if the DLC was just like, you know what? You have the whole Kalos region now, not just Lumiose.
[01:20:14] - [Aaron]
Don't get your don't get don't get excited because apparently once again, these will leaks.
[01:20:20] - [Gerry]
Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Why with the starter Pokemon?
[01:20:26] - [Aaron]
What do you mean why with the starter Pokemon?
[01:20:27] - [Gerry]
What was their reasoning behind those three?
[01:20:33] - [Aaron]
Honestly, I don't know. I don't think it makes to be I don't get it because I think not having Piplup as the water doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah. You're Epiploc is Napoleon. It's like, Napoleon, you're in France.
[01:20:48] - [Aaron]
Why wouldn't you do like, I get Meganium, and I I get to pick. I actually I don't think I disagree with those. I don't, like, I know you love frowligator. I just don't get frowl I don't get totodile for this region.
[01:21:02] - [Gerry]
Yeah. I mean, I instantly totodile. It's like, as soon as I seen
[01:21:07] - [Beth]
that those are like two. Pip lops good shit.
[01:21:11] - [Gerry]
I do like a Piplup.
[01:21:12] - [Aaron]
Just don't get that's what and and the let's be also, like, they gave Meganium fairy type as a mega, then Empoleon is water steel. So you would have had, you know, water is effective against or grass against, you know, rival. But then when you get to those mega evolution stages, then it the kind of power imbalance shifts back. So, like, late game would have had it so that your rival then if you chose one or like, the grass type would have made it so that the rival is now. I don't know.
[01:21:46] - [Aaron]
It just makes more sense to me. Don't know why they didn't, but I I
[01:21:51] - [Gerry]
Is there any rhyme or reason behind the three starters?
[01:21:55] - [Beth]
Don't think they've ever really said. They're just like No. These are them, and then the game came out.
[01:22:01] - [Aaron]
And I don't think they're really like, I could be wrong, but I don't think that there was much justification in Arceus either for why it was these the three that it was.
[01:22:12] - [Beth]
But there was at least there was at least, like, a spread. Like, it wasn't, like, two Yeah. Gen twos and a
[01:22:20] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Like, the budget on this fucking thing, you would think they might have three new Pokemon just to be like, here you go. Here's, like, these fucking three new things.
[01:22:32] - [Aaron]
No. No. No. That's not Legends games. So that's a whole like, there wouldn't be three new ones regardless.
[01:22:38] - [Aaron]
That would be the new that would be a generational thing. It's a whole different thing.
[01:22:43] - [Gerry]
So there wouldn't They be could.
[01:22:45] - [Aaron]
All they're they I don't want like, personally, I wouldn't I'm glad. Like, the Legends games don't. I only want the
[01:22:52] - [Gerry]
new Wouldn't it be cool if it was three new legendaries?
[01:22:56] - [Beth]
No. Why
[01:22:57] - [Gerry]
not? It's called Legends.
[01:22:59] - [Beth]
Yeah. Best reaction.
[01:23:00] - [Aaron]
No. No. No. So conceptually, what it seems to be that they're going with with the Legends game is is that in setting them in these locations, these past locations from previous generations, and they have said that they're kind of targeting more of a less of a casual audience with these. They're they're more for teenagers or people who've grown up with Pokemon and stuff.
[01:23:26] - [Aaron]
They're exploring, like, lore bits and pieces that they never did in the mainline games. So Arceus was like, let's go back to past Sinnoh.
[01:23:37] - [Gerry]
Is that the main focus of these games though, is to, like, do, like, deeper lore dives?
[01:23:42] - [Beth]
Yeah. Yeah. Because there was
[01:23:43] - [Gerry]
I don't know if these are for me then. X because I don't ever care about the lore of Pokemon.
[01:23:48] - [Beth]
X and y
[01:23:49] - [Gerry]
is playing because I wanna catch them all and beat them all. Catch them all. You
[01:23:53] - [Aaron]
can I mean, you can still do that? Like, the I just I'm just saying that I think that these games have better stories than the main games, and they have crazy cool moments because of the fact that they are building up a actual story most of the time. And I personally really appreciate that they're, like, kind of getting more into, like, lore pieces from previous games and kind of, like, doing some interesting things with it. But, you know, like, everything, if it's not for you, like, not everything is for everybody. Right?
[01:24:31] - [Aaron]
Like, if that's not something that I
[01:24:32] - [Gerry]
just didn't realize that that was one of the the big points of these games.
[01:24:37] - [Aaron]
Yeah. I would think you could play Arceus and this without having played the other ones, but for someone who has played, there is, like, a lot of moments or callouts to stuff that happened in x and y specifically that you you you were left questioning, you know, after you finished it.
[01:25:03] - [Gerry]
And I haven't even gotten there, so I haven't questioned anything.
[01:25:06] - [Beth]
As Yeah. As someone who has not played x and y and is now playing z a, it's I mean, it's still pretty enjoyable. But I know that x and y is infinite or fuck. I know x and y is infamously, like, kinda unfinished. Like, there's Yeah.
[01:25:23] - [Beth]
A lot of areas that are, like, in the game that seem like places that you should be able to go to and do, like, extra shit, but it's just there and you can't do anything with it. And this was also around the time that Pokemon was still doing the whole, like, what is it? Black and white black and white or or sorry. Black and white and then Yeah.
[01:25:48] - [Gerry]
The two Black and white two.
[01:25:49] - [Beth]
And then diamonds Very or no platinum with diamond And and then, yeah, like there was this gigantic rumor for the longest time that they were gonna do z to go along with x and y, but then they were like, no. Here's gen three remakes instead.
[01:26:07] - [Aaron]
No. So like very like also one, this has been some like you said, very like like a rumor heavy thing for a really long time. But in the leaks that the terror leaks that happened, we got more information about it. And there was a Pokemon z plant, and they started very, very early development on it. And then we're told kind of, like, just to focus on Sun and Moon.
[01:26:34] - [Aaron]
Like, they just didn't they were just like, okay. We don't have time for this. So very early ideas of what Pokemon z was gonna be like. And then a lot of the stuff with Zygarde and the the gathering the cells and and parts with that was kind of brought into Sun and Moon. Yep.
[01:26:51] - [Aaron]
Look at that. But there was no real full, like, development cycle or idea for it. But with there there's just, like, I think with z a as someone who did play Pokemon x and y and did really enjoy it, but felt a little, like Underwhelmed. Yeah. Like, I especially with the, like, things certain things with, like, the the characters that you don't find out what happened, and I felt, like, a little undercooked.
[01:27:21] - [Aaron]
Learning more about z a, learning more about team flair, and getting their perspective and everything like that a bit better is really what I really think is great for someone who had played it. I think if you haven't played it, you don't have to. Like, it's not literally, like, in your face
[01:27:35] - [Gerry]
Yeah.
[01:27:35] - [Aaron]
With it. But I I guess, like, I genuinely and I'm not this is my favorite Pokemon game since Sun and Moon. I this is the most fun I've had playing a Pokemon game, in, like, ten years. And I just really like the combat.
[01:27:58] - [Gerry]
The combat does seem interesting to me. And I kinda like I feel like I would love if that combat was also, like, an option for some of the new Pokemon games, like just the fact that like it doesn't necessarily get into a battle where you're just like yelling commands and there's like cool downs and shit. I like that. I think that's interesting. It's an interesting take on the original combat system.
[01:28:23] - [Gerry]
I know that there's, like, purists out there that are like, nope. Original Pokemon has to stick to turn based, and it's gonna Yeah. Be the same.
[01:28:31] - [Beth]
I don't know how abilities would work with this new combat system because, like, especially if it's Pokemon with, like, Drizzle or Drought or whatever, which is Mhmm.
[01:28:38] - [Gerry]
$12,000,000 can figure it out. I mean, like, because you you enter
[01:28:42] - [Aaron]
Well, no. They don't have like, I don't get why the Pokemon company won't give them an actual budget. Yeah. Like, it's so, it's so stupid.
[01:28:49] - [Beth]
But I will second that, yeah, the combat is really fucking good, and I like that you don't have to get into a full blown encounter with a Pokemon to to catch it. If you see it
[01:28:59] - [Aaron]
Yeah.
[01:28:59] - [Beth]
You can just hold left trig, hit right trig, toss a ball, bam, you caught it. Bingo, bango, you're done. That shit's really good.
[01:29:08] - [Gerry]
Bingo, bango, baby.
[01:29:10] - [Aaron]
That was, like, our like, some like, I I think I am I am a purist when it comes to the mainline games. I don't want them to not be turn based, like, primarily combat, turn based combat. I think that they should definitely make changes so that you don't have to get into a battle to catch a Pokemon. Like, throw the Pokeball. Like, do what they did in Arceus where you throw the Pokeball, and if you catch it, then awesome.
[01:29:34] - [Aaron]
But if you don't, then it, like, triggers a battle. Right? So I but I shouldn't have to get into a battle with a weedle every single time to catch a weedle. Yep. So I think there's, like, there's compromise or there's a middle ground there.
[01:29:48] - [Aaron]
But here's as someone who is a purist and who does want it to stay turn based, if they implemented this gameplay style moving forward and they, like, kind of tweaked it and refined it and kind of ironed out some of the issues with some of the moves, I wouldn't even be pissed. Like, I wouldn't be angry. I would be sad to see, you know, the turn base go, but I wouldn't I wouldn't be like, oh god. Why did they no. This is genuinely incredibly fun to play.
[01:30:24] - [Gerry]
Yeah.
[01:30:26] - [Aaron]
I didn't unlike Eren, I didn't have the the boredom set in. I found doing the the I found the gameplay loop really satisfying between, you know, going out at night to do the battles, to get the ticket, to then fight the trainer, to progress the story, then especially once when they start introducing, like, the the actual Rogue Megas.
[01:30:49] - [Beth]
I think that's that's the boring part for me is that it it seems like every single day, there's new Rogue Megas, and I just hate the rogue mega battles because, like
[01:30:59] - [Aaron]
Oh, really?
[01:30:59] - [Beth]
There's I
[01:31:00] - [Aaron]
make them so fun.
[01:31:02] - [Beth]
For for me, it's just like, here we go again. Go mega camera up because they're all always weak against fire or ground. So it's always mega camera up on the ready. And then I'm just, like, hitting all the face buttons and just, like, spamming moves until it's dead. I'm just not a big fan of the rogue mega battles.
[01:31:23] - [Beth]
May maybe I I need to switch up my Pokemon. I don't I don't know.
[01:31:28] - [Aaron]
I don't know. Well, I mean, you know, if you're just not, like, into it, like, you know, maybe you're just not into it. Like I think
[01:31:35] - [Gerry]
know, I
[01:31:35] - [Beth]
I think just fighting the same thing for that amount of time bores me. Like, I I I love the battles when you go to the battle zones, which every time I see the word battle zone, I it immediately triggers the I don't know if you guys know what dual masters is. The dual masters song.
[01:31:50] - [Aaron]
That's because, like, the Yu Gi Oh brain.
[01:31:52] - [Beth]
Yeah. Yeah. It's but there's this other card game show called dual masters, which is just a combination of Yu Gi Oh, whatever. The the theme song has this part where it's, like, get into the battle zone and that triggers in my brain. But, yeah, the battle zone shit is really fun.
[01:32:09] - [Beth]
I like collecting cards and try to, like, combo as many cards together and complete as many as I can in one battle as possible to then get, like, a million points and then that's that shit's really fun like that.
[01:32:22] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And I think that the I love the character customization. Mhmm. He's back and in full force.
[01:32:29] - [Beth]
The Look, I like
[01:32:30] - [Gerry]
Go ahead. Go ahead.
[01:32:31] - [Beth]
Go Go ahead.
[01:32:32] - [Aaron]
Oh, I I know that, you know, you and and I'm sure Jerry is gonna, you know, have plenty to say and stuff once when we start complaining about it.
[01:32:44] - [Beth]
But
[01:32:44] - [Gerry]
Why? Why do you say that?
[01:32:46] - [Aaron]
I don't know. But I really don't have much negative to say about this game. I I don't. I think that a lot of the hate is disproportionate to any actual flaws that are there. Because there's some or some of the hate is just, like, to me, really, really overblown, especially that, like, there are people who are telling people who are saying having positive experience with it to literally go kill themselves and things like that.
[01:33:17] - [Beth]
Or Yeah. That's totally out of proportion. Yeah.
[01:33:20] - [Aaron]
And it's and it's, like, vitriol online. And, like, comment sections for anyone who posts anything about the game and they're having a good time has been just toxic and terrible. Yeah. And so that's why I just like, I think that there are genuine real criticisms to have about this game and and how the Pokemon Company, in my opinion, is the one that mishandles a lot of this because, you know, the I think that there is a lot to be said where I I totally think it's fair for the budget of this game to the price tag of this game is not proportionate to each other. Like, you if you're gonna price your game at a premium price tag, then give it a premium budget, but you're not budgeting it that way.
[01:34:10] - [Aaron]
And Yeah. That I just like, that's why I think that's where I think the Pokemon Company is failing because the Pokemon Company is not properly budgeting, giving the budget that Game Freak needs to make these games. Because look at them, look at the beast of reincarnation. Like, at it. That's Game Freak too.
[01:34:29] - [Aaron]
And that's them, like, with outside budget. That is, like, actually giving them money. Like, so I I just so I think that's a criticism you can levy at the Pokemon Company. If you want to be upset about, you know, like, you don't like that the textures, like, of the buildings and stuff are too repetitive, you know, that's also completely fair for, once again, the price point. It's not surprising when you look at the budget, but it is kind of, you know, with the price point.
[01:35:02] - [Aaron]
And lastly, my true real only complaint about this game is I think it was a huge, huge miss to not have voice acting for the main Yep. Cutscenes because this game, more than a lot of other Pokemon games, it being lore focused and story focused, but also they actually do a really good job with the character writing, I feel. I am invested and I believe that these kids are friends with each other. I really like it. There's some super emotional moments that happen later on in the game with some of the characters.
[01:35:44] - [Aaron]
And I am just a little bit, like I still love it. I'm not saying I still do really love what's there. I'm just like, god, it's just such, like, an easy win to have given them you know, just done some voice acting for these moments.
[01:35:58] - [Gerry]
Yeah. It feels like this game, along with a lot of other Game Freak games, lack the polish that people are expecting every single time that it's, like, it's a new game, especially when it's on a new fucking console. Mhmm. And it's like, you you should expect it to be like, oh, yeah, this feels like a next gen leap to whatever the next Pokemon is gonna be. And from what I can tell, and again, I'm new to this fan club, so I don't know.
[01:36:26] - [Gerry]
And to me, as an outsider looking in, it's like, why do they they just never have polish on these games. Like, in a sense of, like, like, if I look at Pokemon Sword and Shield, it looks good on, like, when you see it. Like, the the environments are really nice and lush, but, like, you you couldn't you couldn't fucking tweak that thing to make it, like, a little bit more stable and not as framey. I I don't wanna hear it. I know that there are 60 frames per second patches online that people are using with emulators, an emulator.
[01:37:12] - [Gerry]
And I know that they work on homebrewed switches as well. You mean to tell me that they can't fucking figure that out on their end? That's bullshit. I think, like, when when it comes and, like, Aaron, I had this discussion with you where I I literally asked, what is extra price tag for for the Switch two version?
[01:37:31] - [Beth]
And it's literally just for 60 FPS.
[01:37:34] - [Gerry]
Faster loading and 60 FPS? Yeah. That's the pry that's the fucking sell? Is that it's just a fairly normal behaving game on a next gen console, that is horseshit.
[01:37:49] - [Beth]
Yeah. That's my biggest complaint with the game. And I think we talked about this a little bit on the last episode on the all roguelikes episode was that there was this reel that I saw that I I bring this up to, like, everybody now, but there's a reel that I saw comparing a cutscene in Pokemon Legends z a and a cutscene in Digimon Tor Digimon Story Time Stranger.
[01:38:09] - [Gerry]
Yes.
[01:38:10] - [Beth]
Yeah. And the the cut scene in Digimon Story Time Stranger is just you can tell they took their fucking time making that shit. It's anime as fuck. It's really well animated. It it looks almost like the the three d that you would see in like the fucking Demon Slayer movie.
[01:38:28] - [Gerry]
Right. So that's that's when I say that Game Freak is to blame for this. It's not it's not that the people working on this are not capable of doing these things. I think it's Game Freak is just not investing enough money.
[01:38:46] - [Aaron]
But that's why it's not it's the Pokemon company.
[01:38:49] - [Gerry]
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. It's the I guess is that where the money comes from?
[01:38:53] - [Gerry]
It's from them?
[01:38:54] - [Aaron]
GameFreak has no they have no final say on the development time, for their games from Pokemon. Because the Pokemon company are like, we're giving you three years to do it and we're giving you $12,000,000.
[01:39:06] - [Gerry]
I just pictured Giovanni being like, we're gonna tell you something right now. Yeah. I'm game freak. That's like We're only giving you 12 mil. And there's only 200
[01:39:15] - [Aaron]
employees at Game Freak.
[01:39:18] - [Gerry]
Yeah. So
[01:39:18] - [Aaron]
like But they're making three games or three Pokemon games right now.
[01:39:21] - [Gerry]
And it's I know. And like It sucks. That's what I mean. Like, I just I like and it's obvious then that Bandai Namco is giving money to the the folks that are making these Digimon games, obviously. And they're maybe giving them the space and the time to make a polished product.
[01:39:40] - [Gerry]
I mean, we've seen it in Assassin's Creed when they went, alright, we're pumping way too many of these out. Like, why don't we, like, take a second and not just have something ready to rip fucking year after year, and let's take a step back and see if we can see if we can spend a little time and put a little bit more love into it. Still didn't fucking make me like the games. Yeah. But I do see and appreciate that they they took a step back and said, let's not just pump these out every year, or, like, let's take some time to make these.
[01:40:09] - [Gerry]
So let me ask you this. As Pokemon fans, I mean, again, I'm new. I'm I'm on the outside. It's raining outside, I'm just in, like, like, guys, let me let me in. I just wanna play.
[01:40:23] - [Gerry]
Would you care if they were like, we're taking three years off before you see the next anything Pokemon? Three full years, you're not seeing anything Pokemon new.
[01:40:33] - [Beth]
Would not care.
[01:40:34] - [Gerry]
And but they're like, the promise is you're gonna get something that's like polished. Maybe even four years.
[01:40:41] - [Aaron]
Well, it's been three years. This year is three years since we saw Scarlet and Violet, and that was the last Pokemon game.
[01:40:49] - [Gerry]
Was there not a remake of one of them?
[01:40:51] - [Aaron]
No. Last remake was Diamond and Pearl ones, and that came out the year before. So it was Diamond. This is
[01:40:59] - [Gerry]
This is that. Yeah.
[01:41:00] - [Aaron]
This is that. This is them. But this is Jerry, they've been on three year cycles for, like, since x and y.
[01:41:08] - [Gerry]
Well, then they need five.
[01:41:11] - [Aaron]
Been fine with that. Absolutely. God. And, like, we I think, like, as Pokemon fans, we would be. But you you've gotta understand what Pokemon Company is.
[01:41:21] - [Aaron]
Do you know if this
[01:41:22] - [Gerry]
They sound diabolical to me.
[01:41:24] - [Aaron]
Evil.
[01:41:25] - [Gerry]
They make
[01:41:26] - [Beth]
so much money. Like, I
[01:41:28] - [Gerry]
I know. I know. Know.
[01:41:29] - [Aaron]
I'm gonna do use the straw as a prop for a second.
[01:41:32] - [Gerry]
Oh, okay.
[01:41:33] - [Aaron]
Let's just say this is the entire
[01:41:35] - [Gerry]
Go to YouTube and watch the video.
[01:41:37] - [Aaron]
Okay. This here is the entire, like, net income. This is the amount of money that the Pokemon company brings in yearly.
[01:41:46] - [Gerry]
That is holding up the straw end to end for the listener? The
[01:41:50] - [Aaron]
amount of money that they make off of the, like, video games is this.
[01:41:58] - [Gerry]
Beth is showing about what looks about to be one sixteenth of the straw.
[01:42:03] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And then the amount of money that they make off of card, the card, the TCG, and, like, miscellaneous is like a little bit more. Right?
[01:42:11] - [Gerry]
We're looking at about another eighth.
[01:42:14] - [Aaron]
This is merchandise.
[01:42:16] - [Gerry]
Oh, yeah. And the rest of the straw.
[01:42:18] - [Aaron]
Because this is their this is how much money they make off merchandise because they can pump out the video games that they make this much money on.
[01:42:29] - [Beth]
That makes sense.
[01:42:30] - [Aaron]
Don't And care about the that's why they keep putting them on these incredibly short cycles, and they only give them $12,000,000. And then they're like, make my mascots. Make my cute little guys so I can sell pillows, plushies.
[01:42:47] - [Gerry]
So here's the thing. I so I know that the Pokemon fan base is notoriously sour about fucking everything. I I I'm part of the the fan club of Silent Hill fans that just bitch about every fucking game that comes out. Mhmm. So I I know what it's like.
[01:43:07] - [Gerry]
I mean, I'd I it's like, you know, I do know what it's like, but I don't know what it's like. That's like me being like, yeah,
[01:43:13] - [Beth]
I totally know what it's like
[01:43:14] - [Gerry]
to have cancer. I stubbed my toe one time. I don't What a what a fucking Take a cigarette.
[01:43:20] - [Beth]
That'll cure that cancer. Throwback.
[01:43:26] - [Gerry]
So, like, I I I get it, and I I also don't. But when I see people complaining about this franchise, maybe they're maybe they have a reason to be a bit sour because it's just continuous slop being pushed out where it's like, yeah, there's good shit here. Like, I'm not saying that these games are bad. I just mean that it seems weird that this flagship franchise for Nintendo especially has some of the worst performing games, like and I get it. Nintendo is not looking for the bet like, you know what, though?
[01:44:06] - [Gerry]
I'll reel that back because I'm I'm sick and tired of people being like, Nintendo Nintendo doesn't make the best looking games. They're just good. Breathe from wild and fucking tears
[01:44:15] - [Aaron]
of Nintendo fan because you're the same boat as just people shitting on it because it doesn't look like fucking goddamn everything doesn't look like Red Dead Redemption two. I hate the Red Dead Redemption two comparisons
[01:44:32] - [Gerry]
to everything. I would never expect.
[01:44:34] - [Beth]
Yeah. I'm gonna say will say though for, like, for as much hate as this game gets or, like, as meant for as many complaints as I have about this game, I do kinda think, like, kind kind of the good outweighs the bad. Like, I'm having more fun with the game than I am, like, sitting there harrumphing about how much I don't like how the city looks and, like, how much better it could look.
[01:45:00] - [Gerry]
That's the thing. Right? Like, I mean, you could sit down all day and just complain about a game. That doesn't mean you hate the game.
[01:45:07] - [Aaron]
Yeah. Yeah.
[01:45:07] - [Gerry]
And I have lots of complaints about games
[01:45:09] - [Aaron]
I love. Slop.
[01:45:11] - [Gerry]
Well, I mean, it's not like AI slop or anything. I just I mean, like, they you can't expect me to believe that, like, a copy paste city of just, like, gray blocks is not sloppy. Like, they could have done something to fucking spruce it up.
[01:45:35] - [Aaron]
Okay. But I I yeah. Okay. I just the the word slop and how it's used to describe things in games at this point, feel is very reductive. A lot of times, like, people call things like peek and repo and all that friend slop, and and they use it as a, like, a derogatory.
[01:45:54] - [Gerry]
Oh, I've never heard. Yeah.
[01:45:57] - [Aaron]
Slob What? Slob right now in the gaming community is used in a very Slop
[01:46:01] - [Gerry]
it up, boys?
[01:46:02] - [Aaron]
So that's what I'm saying.
[01:46:03] - [Gerry]
Slop up the mistakes.
[01:46:04] - [Aaron]
I don't and that's I think that, like, this I'm with Aaron in the sense that it's like, I'll truly, I'll stop playing Pokemon games when they stop being fun to play.
[01:46:16] - [Beth]
Yeah.
[01:46:17] - [Aaron]
And they haven't made one that hasn't been fun to play. So Yeah. That's kind of the big thing. And when I'm enjoying and having fun with the game, I don't I I'm sorry. I'm not looking at the fucking walls.
[01:46:31] - [Aaron]
I don't notice that the streets are, you know, a little bit copy and paste. When I'm fast traveling everywhere and doing the fights and, like, looking at my Pokemon and everything else
[01:46:42] - [Gerry]
is For sure. Bad. And I mean, I had a great time with Scarlet or Yeah. Violet. Yep.
[01:46:47] - [Gerry]
Same. I've it was fucking bland as a fucking rock on a highway. Like, it was just like, every town was just like, who gives a shit fucking city? Here we come. Slop City.
[01:47:00] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Slop City. There's But, like, I fucking really enjoyed my time with that game. That's what I mean. Like, I I feel like when you point out certain things, like what I just said, like, they they probably could have fucking spruced that up a bit.
[01:47:18] - [Gerry]
Yeah. That's one of that's a complaint. That doesn't mean I'm like, this game fucking sucks. This game sucks. No, it doesn't.
[01:47:25] - [Gerry]
It doesn't suck. Should they have taken a little bit more liberty in sprucing some things up or making making it worthwhile for there to actually be a Switch two fucking version of this?
[01:47:36] - [Aaron]
Yeah.
[01:47:36] - [Gerry]
Like, that's that's that's what I would say my complaints are. And again, I haven't played the game. So I don't know. I can't really speak to that. And from what I can tell, you know, I value both of your opinions on on games.
[01:47:52] - [Gerry]
And if you're both saying you enjoy the game and you're not sitting there with your arms folded and be like, can't believe these fucking trees, they're two These fucking leaves
[01:48:05] - [Aaron]
Yeah.
[01:48:05] - [Gerry]
These two dimensional leaves, Like, I get it. I I totally get it that sometimes the gameplay is what it needs. Yeah. The Pokemon games, they always deliver on the gameplay. Yeah.
[01:48:20] - [Aaron]
Literally, set your watch, check back in three years, three years, and every single Pokemon post will be, man, you know what was really fucking good and hit? ZA. This new
[01:48:36] - [Gerry]
shit sucks. Oh, believe Yeah. Because I hear that about Arceus.
[01:48:39] - [Aaron]
It's every time. That's why it's, like, it's so hard to, like
[01:48:42] - [Gerry]
I remember when Arceus came out, everybody was fucking shitting on that. They were like, what the fuck is this shit? Like
[01:48:46] - [Beth]
Now everybody's like
[01:48:47] - [Gerry]
We didn't ask for this.
[01:48:48] - [Beth]
All I see on, like, forums and Reddit and shit. This is like, oh, Arceus was like leaps and bounds better than this. Like, I Yeah. I mean
[01:48:58] - [Aaron]
I've been seeing It was coming like, I've been seeing Sword and Shield, like, appreciation posts. Like, that's what I mean. Like, the cycle just the cycle continues. Like, it
[01:49:10] - [Gerry]
Those games
[01:49:11] - [Aaron]
are awesome. You know, it it's they were good. They were so fun. And now there's, like, all of a sudden, all of the people who were, like, screaming and hating it are like, oh,
[01:49:19] - [Gerry]
my It was good. All of my my rage that I have built up is not so much directed at Pokemon games and more so about, like
[01:49:30] - [Beth]
The fan base?
[01:49:32] - [Gerry]
Where the no, it's not even that. It's where the fuck is the value of there being a Switch two version? And why are we fucking paying for them?
[01:49:41] - [Beth]
Yeah.
[01:49:41] - [Gerry]
Why are these games so much more expensive for a regular feature? I don't understand this. Help me fucking make sense of this because I I don't understand. I've I've been so pissed ever since I bought that fucking new Kirby thing. I thought, man, there's gonna be like a whole ass thing here.
[01:50:01] - [Gerry]
Yeah. There's like some new levels
[01:50:02] - [Beth]
new levels. What are you talking about? There's a whole like new campaign after you beat the game. Go beat the game and then come back to it. There's a whole new game to it.
[01:50:13] - [Gerry]
But isn't it just like remixes of levels that you've already been to?
[01:50:17] - [Beth]
Yes. But there's they also upgrade a couple new copy abilities and they add like a couple more new things.
[01:50:24] - [Gerry]
That's not good enough. That's not worth fucking 30 of my dollars.
[01:50:27] - [Beth]
Oh, shit. I forget everything.
[01:50:28] - [Gerry]
I I don't just I will But, like, even even so, the fact that it's, like, this like, kinda like, not a lot of content. I mean, look what they fucking did to Mario Jamboree. Mario Party Jamboree. That was insane. Yep.
[01:50:43] - [Gerry]
It was like, they didn't even update the fucking frame, like, the FPS in the base game. Yeah. It was just the add on shit. You remember that? It's like, guys, what the fuck are we doing here?
[01:50:54] - [Gerry]
And to go back to, like, just recently, I seen somebody because I seen some people chirping about z a and how on an emulator, you can get that fucker to run at 60 frames per second. No problem. So it's like so if that's the case, then what else does this? Turns out, a lot. There's a lot of fucking games that if you throw it on an emulator and again, I am not encouraging anybody to go get an emulator and play Pirate games.
[01:51:22] - [Gerry]
But what I will say is that the list of games that just require a fucking little text patch to go, oh, now it's 60. Doesn't make sense when it's like, why why doesn't Nintendo just give us these fucking free updates for these games? Like, if you already own Xenoblade Chronicles X, Dragon Quest HD fucking three, whatever that's called, all these games, if you already own them, then unlock the fucking frames, dude. Yeah. Unlock the goddamn frames.
[01:51:54] - [Gerry]
Fucking if you if
[01:51:56] - [Beth]
you own this game on Xbox one, here's here it is for free on series x, motherfucker. Slop it up.
[01:52:03] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And also just, like, adding a little bit to that, even with the Switch, if you bought Hades two or the Switch version, the there's no upgrade price for the switch two version. They're the same cost.
[01:52:18] - [Beth]
That's cool.
[01:52:20] - [Aaron]
So, yeah, I'm no I'm with you on that. Like, I don't I I this like, full transparency, I bought z a full price in Canada. So, like, taxes in, it came to, like, 115, a 100 and something dollars for me. I played the game for eighty plus hours, and that was just doing the story and side missions. And I had a blast.
[01:52:43] - [Aaron]
I had fun doing it. And I do think the content amount of content in it, I didn't feel like I didn't get my money's worth. That being because I I played for fucking eighty hours, and there's so much in it. That being said, I don't disagree that, like, why are we making it $10 more expensive for the Switch version if Switch two version if essentially there's nothing more really on offer there because the value proposition of it is is, like, harder to kind of justify in that case.
[01:53:19] - [Gerry]
Yeah. You know what's funny? Silksong. Silksong on Switch one doesn't support a 120 FPS, obviously, because that's a that's a Switch two feature. You know how much the Silksong Switch two version is?
[01:53:32] - [Aaron]
Same price.
[01:53:32] - [Gerry]
The same goddamn price. Yeah. So what the fuck are we doing here? Yeah.
[01:53:37] - [Aaron]
Yeah. That that's like that's Nintendo. That's, you know
[01:53:41] - [Gerry]
I know. IT. I know. It's it's fucking ludicrous. It riles me up.
[01:53:46] - [Aaron]
Yeah. It's really they're really that's kind of like a huge thing that they like, it does suck that they have a lot of, like, these really, like, good like, some people wanna call them nostalgia bait, whatever. But also, I do think that it's, they just do make fun games, which is kind of,
[01:54:06] - [Beth]
like Yeah.
[01:54:07] - [Aaron]
You're not gonna be playing it if it's not fun. But then they, like, do insanely shitty, like, consumer things, like, on for two consumers, which makes it frustrating.
[01:54:17] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Like, I'm never not gonna have a Nintendo console. I can tell you that right now. I will fucking take that bait, and I will I will eat up whatever the fuck they throw at me. Slop or not.
[01:54:27] - [Gerry]
Yep. I'm eating it up.
[01:54:28] - [Beth]
Yep.
[01:54:28] - [Gerry]
Put it in the fucking trough, dunk my head in it, I don't care. There's I'm eating that Nintendo shit.
[01:54:34] - [Beth]
There's a thing I see everywhere, like, especially on Facebook because Facebook is just fucking pure evil everywhere you go. It is. Lot of a lot of people commenting on, like, z a post. They just going like, oh, po it's just this is proof that Pokemon fans will buy anything Pokemon and and, you know, blah blah blah. Like Nintendo fans will buy anything that that they shit out.
[01:54:58] - [Beth]
Well, I mean, because, yeah, it's fun. Like, as much complaining and, like, as much
[01:55:04] - [Aaron]
criticism.
[01:55:04] - [Beth]
Yeah. As much criticism as as we've spewed out today, like, there it's still really fucking fun. Like, I really love the concept of the z a royale. I I wish that they would do so much more with that because that shit is so cool. And then I like the the idea of, like, kind of the persona three dorm room with with your buddies Yeah.
[01:55:29] - [Beth]
In the was it the royal hotel or whatever?
[01:55:32] - [Aaron]
The hotel z.
[01:55:33] - [Beth]
Hotel z. Yeah. I I really like that. The really, really tall dude really freaks me out. Don't like that.
[01:55:39] - [Beth]
Yeah. Oh. Is
[01:55:41] - [Aaron]
he in his foot?
[01:55:44] - [Beth]
And I I do like the exploration, man. Like, maybe not so much up on the rooftops, but I love going down below, going through the sewers or, like, going through and unlocking all these shortcuts with ice and breaking boulders and shit like that. I love unlocking the new fucking See,
[01:56:01] - [Gerry]
that stuff Yeah. That stuff sounds cool to me. I like that. I like that there's more environmental things going on where it's like for lack of better term, using those Metroidvania type things where it's like,
[01:56:13] - [Beth]
oh,
[01:56:14] - [Gerry]
I have this thing now. Yeah. I like that. I like when What if
[01:56:18] - [Aaron]
this okay. Sorry. Like a little bit of a I gotta I got it now that you brought that out. Something that I truly, truly love with this, and it's another reason why I'm like, I do I don't I don't agree when people say Game Freak doesn't care about Pokemon, is because there are so many little things that they've done in this that call back or wink or reference other aspects of Pokemon games. Yeah.
[01:56:39] - [Aaron]
Like, you bring up the HMs. They brought HMs back, but like
[01:56:43] - [Beth]
Kind of.
[01:56:44] - [Aaron]
Not kind of. But it's like using Rock Smash or using a it's really then using a Steel or a Ground type move.
[01:56:50] - [Beth]
Yep. You can use Earthquake.
[01:56:52] - [Aaron]
It yeah. And so it's like there's that. Then there's melting the thing or freezing that thing or what so it's fire is cute.
[01:57:00] - [Beth]
Can use fire to burn down like the little bristles and shit like that.
[01:57:03] - [Aaron]
Yeah. Yeah. And or like Or like all of the ways yeah. So isn't that like, to me, it's like there's all of these things that, like, show love or little, like, winks to the history of Pokemon, especially I think it really shines in a lot of the ways they designed the combat, where if a move had low accuracy in the turn based game, then it kind of creates a area of effect on the ground that takes a while to power up so that someone can move out of.
[01:57:33] - [Beth]
About that. So, like,
[01:57:34] - [Aaron]
hurricane is like that.
[01:57:36] - [Beth]
So that's Blizzard.
[01:57:37] - [Aaron]
Low act and Blizzard. So they're low accuracy moves, but you the way that they reflect that is by making it so it's easier to move out of. And then they're the way that they're like, you know, usually in the turn based games, if you were switching a Pokemon in battle, it would mean that you take a turn so that the enemy could get a free hit. The way they've reflected that is that when you bring in a new Pokemon, it takes a second for you to be able to lock on again, usually letting the enemy get a free hit. So there's still the danger there and the the kind of strategy involved in figuring out when it's best to kind of tag in and out certain Pokemon.
[01:58:22] - [Gerry]
Yeah.
[01:58:22] - [Aaron]
And so there's like a lot of things that they've done. And I want I know people are really upset about the the graphics and everything. They finally added color back the to the Pokemon and the the characters they'd like since x and y, they desaturated a lot of the Pokemon, making it get a stab. Yeah. So, like, look at Charizard in z a.
[01:58:48] - [Aaron]
Charizard is orange again. He's not dehydrate he doesn't look anemic. He's poor. Like, he he's losing blood. Like, in he's not pale anymore.
[01:58:59] - [Aaron]
He's actually a bright orange.
[01:59:01] - [Gerry]
I could see that now. Made it Charizard alcoholic evolution.
[01:59:04] - [Aaron]
Or really? Charizard hungover as fuck.
[01:59:07] - [Beth]
Yeah. I And and
[01:59:10] - [Aaron]
and so, like and they've made it so that some of the shinies actually look distinguishable. Like, they made Slow Bros, like, a really nice purple instead of being, like, a slightly tailored pink. So that's like they've done a lot of little niche things. So the those are things that like some of the community have been like very vocal about. That's like shiny hunters have been like, oh, I don't like that you can't tell the difference between this thing or that thing.
[01:59:33] - [Aaron]
So they've done that for the shiny hunters. And people have been saying that the characters look desaturated. They miss that, like, the brightness of the old, like, sprites version. So they've done that. They've reflected the turn based aspects and ideas in the turn like, the new types of combat that there is.
[01:59:52] - [Aaron]
They, you know so it's like I they clearly
[01:59:55] - [Beth]
And you can change moves anywhere. I wanted to add this real fast while you're still on this topic. You can change you can have Pokemon learn new moves and remove old ones literally anywhere. You don't have to go to the move deleter anymore or, like, go to the move you want to go to the move deleter, delete a move, go to the move learner to learn a move Mhmm. Invite and, like, you know, vice versa.
[02:00:15] - [Beth]
It says, it's just all right there. You hit right trigger on your Pokemon list of all their moves, or teach them a TM if you want. Who gives a shit?
[02:00:23] - [Aaron]
Yeah. I that's what it's like they've just done so many things in this game that are quality of life things or little updates to things that fans have been, like, wishing for, asking for, and that's why I my frustration tends to be directed to the Pokemon company, not giving them budget and time because I do think that if they had those two things, that Game Freak would be able to push out something that's really interesting. One last, I guess, like, kind of maybe some hope for the future, we're, you know, let's be cautiously optimistic. Is that the leaks the Terra leaks said that gen generation 10, probably gonna see it next year. It's going to only be available on Switch two.
[02:01:16] - [Aaron]
And for the first time, since x and y, it's gonna be a new engine. Okay. So a new engine that they've been working on, and it's going to only be switched to. So there's gonna be no no no effort being made for it to make it runnable on the Switch.
[02:01:44] - [Beth]
I this might be a controversial take. I kind of don't want dual versions anymore.
[02:01:52] - [Aaron]
Oh, it's gonna it's gonna be wind and wave.
[02:01:54] - [Beth]
I don't want the dual versions, but I don't know. Yeah.
[02:01:58] - [Gerry]
Hey, you what?
[02:01:59] - [Aaron]
Now you can get one and then we'll trade.
[02:02:01] - [Beth]
That's true. Goddamn it. That's true.
[02:02:04] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And another kind of another little spoiler thing they're saying is that there's gonna be, like, a main hub area that you spend most like, you you kind of, like, a central thing, and and it's gonna be a hotel, like, resort. Sorry. A resort
[02:02:18] - [Beth]
That's
[02:02:18] - [Aaron]
that you're gonna
[02:02:19] - [Beth]
That's cool as fuck. Okay.
[02:02:20] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And in the resort specifically, you'll be able to run around, and it's gonna be a bit more like an MMO lobby. So there'll be a bunch of trainers in this resort that, you know, that are online, people playing. So if you're playing online in gen 10 and you're in the resort area, then you will be visible to other people who are playing. So we can run around like that.
[02:02:51] - [Aaron]
So that's that's what this once again, those are these are leaks, but who knows what's changed in the development time. These were from twenty twenty one con concept stuff.
[02:03:06] - [Beth]
So I hope that's it. That sounds awesome, actually.
[02:03:10] - [Aaron]
Mhmm. And it's gonna be Indonesia based. Really?
[02:03:14] - [Gerry]
Oh, cool. Yeah.
[02:03:15] - [Aaron]
Yeah. Yeah.
[02:03:19] - [Beth]
That's Pokemon.
[02:03:22] - [Gerry]
Yeah. That's Pokemon.
[02:03:23] - [Beth]
Random
[02:03:24] - [Aaron]
So cute. So many emotions.
[02:03:26] - [Gerry]
Yeah. Random Rex. Yeah. I got I got some random Rex. Hit it.
[02:03:31] - [Gerry]
Random Recommended James. I wanna I wanna shout it on the rooftops. A fun, cute, little hey, you guys like I don't know, Beth, if you like this kind of game or not, but I know Aaron does. It's a nice, quick, like, puzzle type of platform y kind of thing. Kinda like you ever play Boxboy?
[02:03:56] - [Gerry]
Yes. Fucking love Boxboy. So it's similar think Boxboy. It's called a Leckhead. Oh, I've heard of this.
[02:04:03] - [Beth]
Yeah. With the little plug head, dude. Dude. This
[02:04:09] - [Gerry]
game is super good, super charming. It kind of exceeded my expectations somehow for what it should have been. Mhmm. And it's just very, very, very clever in its design. Like, front to back, ass to front, it is clever, dude.
[02:04:30] - [Gerry]
And I highly recommend it. So essentially, the the basis of the game is that you you are just going along levels. There are secret ways and alternate, like, paths, but you hit a checkpoint and then you're basically, like, in a room where you're like, okay, how do I figure this out? And whatever you touch activates electricity. So, like Sounds good.
[02:04:55] - [Gerry]
It might cause, like, a platform to move if you stand on it. Eventually, get the ability to throw your head. So, like, you can throw it upward, but if if it gets thrown upward or, like, if you throw it onto a ledge, you have ten seconds to go back to your head and reattach it. So it opens up this door of, like, okay, I might have to, like, throw my head up in the air to land on this thing so that it'll activate, so it'll move it across, and then I'll have to, like, go around and jump on all these other platforms to meet it on the other side. Because all the other platforms, if I were to step on them with my head and activate them, they'll kill me.
[02:05:37] - [Gerry]
So I I need to do it this way. So it just makes for very clever puzzling in the levels, And it's it's usually cheap. I got it for dirt fucking cheap. And it's quick. It's a quick little game.
[02:05:52] - [Gerry]
I'm probably, I don't know, almost done it by by this point. I've probably been playing an hour or so. Don't think it's I don't think it's terribly long. Mhmm. I really, really think you should get this area.
[02:06:07] - [Gerry]
I'm gonna You you of all people should get this. Beth, I don't know if you like puzzle y platform things like that. It's not like precision platforming as much as it is like just figuring out what you have to do. Yep.
[02:06:18] - [Aaron]
Maybe. Thomas Was Alone is one of my favorite games of all time, but that really has to do with
[02:06:24] - [Gerry]
It's more narrative. Right?
[02:06:26] - [Aaron]
It's it's the narrative that really like, there there is it's it has, like, very light, like, platforming for each level. The reason why I love it so much, though, is because I was not expecting to care so much about quadrilaterals. Like, I I got so emotionally invested
[02:06:44] - [Beth]
in this rectangle.
[02:06:47] - [Aaron]
Oh my god. You don't you don't if you haven't played it, you don't get it. Like, I I have not at the end. Oh my god. It's so good.
[02:06:56] - [Gerry]
Sweet. Any other wrecks? So we can get out here. I'm sweating What are you doing anime? For my an anime?
[02:07:02] - [Gerry]
Yes. All day, every day. Game.
[02:07:06] - [Aaron]
So since, Aaron, earlier, when you talked about I've been thinking about this since you talked about emotionally devastating games or
[02:07:15] - [Gerry]
stories. Emotionally devastating animes? No.
[02:07:18] - [Aaron]
With OMORI, what and, like, you said that something with it is, like, emotionally devastating. Cool. And it's, like, about friends who, you know, used to know each other there and something happened, and then them having to, like, come back together. There is an anime called Anohana, the flower we saw that day.
[02:07:34] - [Beth]
I've heard of this.
[02:07:37] - [Aaron]
It's only eleven episodes and done. Truly one of the like, it it's beautiful. It hurts. The ending is, like, both bitters is very bittersweet. I watched I I watched it in high school.
[02:07:55] - [Aaron]
I cried so hard. Like
[02:08:00] - [Gerry]
I cried so hard. No.
[02:08:03] - [Aaron]
I I was weeping. Like, I was not I was crying so much, and I, like, went and found my dad. And I I had
[02:08:11] - [Gerry]
You had to get an adult?
[02:08:13] - [Aaron]
Yeah. And and my dad was like, what is going on? Like, because he thought something was seriously wrong, and I just was like, it's just so sad. And he's like, what
[02:08:22] - [Gerry]
is this? But I was like
[02:08:24] - [Beth]
Jesus.
[02:08:25] - [Aaron]
Hug me. Like, and I'm not even Jerry knows. I'm not a touchy feely person. I don't really like hugs. I don't like people touching me.
[02:08:32] - [Aaron]
I I'm not a fan. And I, like, literally had to go and find my dad so he could, like, envelop
[02:08:37] - [Beth]
Holy shit.
[02:08:38] - [Aaron]
A dad hug because I just I needed that in that moment. But it was it's genuinely a really good story too, though. Like, it's great. So if you wanna be emotionally devastated, but you also wanna or and watch a good anime, check out Anahana.
[02:08:54] - [Gerry]
Anahana. Mhmm. Anahana. What do got, Aaron?
[02:08:58] - [Beth]
My my oh, fuck. I can't even say it. My random is Stella Glow. It's a really cool anime as fuck, almost like fusion of Persona and Fire Emblem. It's on three d s.
[02:09:12] - [Beth]
It's a tactics RPG. You play the main character also. You'll recruit these different witches of different elements and the witches sing songs that have different powers like the fire one gives everybody like increased attack and crit or like the water one has increased magical attack or something. I I forget what exactly they all do, but there's all sorts of other characters that you'll recruit to your party. Like there's a thief guy who does thief shit.
[02:09:43] - [Beth]
There's a big tanky knight dude who does big tanky night shit, like he takes a I'm I'm making this sound really plain, but it's it's actually really good. I'm I'm just trying to be quick because we've been in here for like two hours.
[02:09:56] - [Aaron]
Yeah. It's been a long while.
[02:09:58] - [Beth]
Stella Glow, just just go look it up. It's really fucking good. I cannot do it the Justice by just talking about it. Stella glow. Look it up.
[02:10:09] - [Beth]
Go.
[02:10:10] - [Aaron]
Stella glow now.
[02:10:13] - [Gerry]
Go Stella glow.
[02:10:14] - [Beth]
Go Stella glow. One
[02:10:17] - [Gerry]
brain cell. Jesus Christ. Of Jesus gonna do it, I think. Yep. Speaking of Jesus, let's go heels to Jesus and get the fuck out of here.
[02:10:26] - [Gerry]
Yeah. What do you think? Aaron, tell them where they can go.
[02:10:30] - [Beth]
Superghost.site. It's all there. Literally, everything's there. You can learn all about us there. Socials, Patreon, what my blood type is, what best favorite food is, what Jerry's, I don't know, favorite flavor of Mountain Dew is.
[02:10:44] - [Beth]
It's all there. Super ghost outside.
[02:10:46] - [Gerry]
Mhmm. Yep. Or you can slide into Greg's DMs and you can have him personally tell you to go to hell.
[02:10:51] - [Beth]
Yeah. You
[02:10:52] - [Gerry]
can do that. Yeah. Do that. Until next time. Sayonara, suckers.
[02:11:00] - [Gerry]
You guys, not the not the listeners. I love listeners. Bye.