[00:00:00] So our boy, Nave, Gaming Together Nave, he's YouTube famous now. I went into his Discord server the other day. I think this was just, it was like Monday night. They were doing, the people in his Discord server were doing this like Breaking Bad roleplaying thing. Like they were all picking characters they wanted to be and like changing their name and like their profile picture and stuff, the different Breaking Bad characters. I mean, we were just spouting lines from the show and stuff.

[00:00:28] And so I was Hector, the old guy in the wheelchair, and I would just spam the bell emoji constantly. Just like ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I don't know jack shit about Breaking Bad. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's not on purpose. It seems like a show I would definitely like. I've just never watched it. That seems on purpose. I mean, that's all you have to do. The only thing you have to do is watch it. And if you've chose to not watch it, that's on you.

[00:01:05] Hey, it's Super Ghost. I still don't know what our intro is for this show, but this is it. This is the show. Well, Jerry and Beth and Greg, they all tapped out this episode, but that's fine. I've replaced them. This is the new Super Ghost. I've assembled my dream team. I gathered the finest men from the internet. And well, I guess I don't know what I'm trying to say. I basically put together our League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

[00:01:33] I've got Dre and Steve, both from Fine Time. And we've got Darren from Pixels and Polygons. What's up, man? Thanks for hopping on tonight. Yes. I saw the bat signal via a Discord message and declined. And then five minutes later, I accepted because apparently my wife didn't care that I was going to sit at my computer for this long today. And here I am. All right. Hello. She's got lots of young Sheldon to watch, so she didn't give a damn.

[00:02:04] No, I want to make sure that's clear. She is not a young Sheldon fan, nor is she a young Sheldon watcher. Okay. She's exclusively watching Vampire Diaries and other hit CW shows. Yes. What are her feelings on Georgie and what's her name's first marriage? Because that's the third spinoff in the Big Bang Theory universe. There's another spinoff? Oh, no. Unaware of it.

[00:02:34] Is this like the new All in the Family where everything's just going to stem from that for like a whole decade? Only if this doesn't die. But it's got it. Someone needs to end the bloodline. We need to go. Well, I guess that's what this new spinoff is doing. Never mind. If you see young Sheldon, can you do what needs to be done? It's like there's an arc of Uncanny X-Force where they had to protect a young apocalypse. But that was the concern of like, we should just kill him now so he doesn't do what he's going to inevitably do.

[00:03:04] And this is essentially that storyline. Kill young Sheldon. You get a time machine and they give you a list of like three choices. It's like, all right, Hitler, someone else. I don't know. And then young Sheldon. Or I guess Chuck Lorre or Chuck Lorre. Have you say it? Whoever does that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just take it. Just, you know.

[00:03:31] It just reminds me of that guy who got banned from Twitter for having like the AI picture of like baby Elon Musk. And it's the same thing. Like, can you do what needs to be done if you go back in time? Of course, he specifically got banned for that because asshole probably saw it.

[00:03:57] But this is a good episode where this is going to be all people who we'd assassinate. If we go back. I would assassinate, you know. Yeah. I come up with some cockamamie. I don't know. It's like Deathloop, but cool. You get to go like, you know, assassinate like. John Wilkes Booth. Yeah. Carrie Underwood. Sneaking up on Carrie Underwood. Is that what you said? I mean, I thought we were throwing out names. I'm sorry. Did she not do anything wrong? Sorry, Carrie Underwood.

[00:04:26] No, Carrie. Carrie Underwood. Whoops. Is that what you said? I love it. No, that's perfect. I can't do better than that. I don't know. I think we could stop Tim Allen before he makes Santa Claus. Oh, Tim Allen will be good. Tim Allen will be good. Oh, yeah. That's a pretty good call. Or Christmas. Wait. Did Santa Claus 4 come up before Christmas with the cranks? I don't know. There's a Santa Claus 4? I hope not. They made three. Lorde. Fuck. Was it?

[00:04:56] I've never seen them. I think the second one, he gets married. And then the third one, they have a kid or something. And then I think there is a fourth one. Unfortunately, I'm going to look it up. This is a story. I forgot. The super ghost is built on looking stuff up. I forgot about that. Martin Short. I remember during Grandia 2, you try to look something up. I'm like, stop it. We don't do it. No learning. No learning during the show.

[00:05:26] I don't see me. You do all your learning in advance. Yes. That's what the show notes are for. No learning. I'm going to teach an old dog new tricks. I've still got that super pod dog in me. You know that song by Garbage, Dog New Tricks? It's on their first record. I love that song. I only know one garbage song. Which is? Is it I'm Only Happy When It Rains? Is that a garbage song? Yeah, that's a garbage song. Yep. Okay, cool. Cool. That's on that record. Singa. Hell yeah.

[00:05:57] I love dog new tricks. I love that record. Oh, okay. So there was not a Santa Claus 4, but there was a television series called The Santa Clauses. So it continued on. Yeah, it continued on. That's worse. With Tim Allen. Man. Oh, that's worse. That right wing Santa Claus just delivering one Barbie because he's got to save plastics from the tariffs. Not sure if this is the cast. Whoops.

[00:06:26] I'm coming for Carrie Underwood and I'm getting political. I don't know if I'm overstepping. Okay. Do Carrie Underwood fans have like a name? Like because you know how like little Lady Gaga fans are like monsters, right? Or like, you know, like the series. Yeah. Yeah. Swifties, right? Like do Carrie Underwood fans have a name? Is she to that level of? I don't know. They do. Yeah. They're undercarriages. That's good. That's good. I was going to say the Underwoodlanders.

[00:06:55] Underwoodlanders. Oh my God, dude. Underwood elves. No. Man. Maybe I am properly dressed for this show. I tell you what. The Underwoodies. Hey, that's the favorite. Never mind. New merch idea for Carrie Underwood. Carrie Underwood, if you're listening, you can steal this. Okay. So you get like the eggplant emoji, right? And then it says, I've got a Woody for Carrie Underwood. Free money. Yes. Boom. I'm a hair.

[00:07:25] I'm clapping for you. I'm clapping for you. Love it. Potential million dollar. Steve doesn't approve. I don't think I'm just confused. We'll tell you about it when you're older. No, I think I understand, but never mind. Okay. You think if you don't understand something, it's always good to talk about it. You can ask questions. The market. I don't understand who we're selling it to. Carrie Underwood fans. Carrie Underwood fans. He already told you dumb ass. God. God. Don't you understand anything about commerce?

[00:07:55] Clearly not. God. What's the crazy tariff? I mean, look, I know we all play video games, but like, obviously it's tariff city right now. The PlayStation 5, as of this recording, has just gone up $50. Oh, yeah. Has there been anything in your lives, guys, that has been like destroyed by this right now? And that maybe not destroyed. Maybe that's a little, but like you're, you're looking at your wallet like, oof. Right now. Anything Amber Nick.

[00:08:26] Oh, the Amber Nick stuff. Once they run out of stock in the U.S., you're going to start buying from China and, oof. Good God, man. Big old hit to the old wallet. That fucking sucks. I'm going to read asking this in two seconds. Don't you have enough Amber Nick stuff, Aaron? He never does. No, so I have one handheld and I have one controller, but I'm like, I really want that Game Boy

[00:08:55] Advance SP looking, looking motherfucker. It feels like you have more than one of those things, though. Like you're Abernick presenting, you know? He's Abernick pilled right now. Like he needs, he needs more. It feels like you have like at least four. I only have one. Well, as much as he talks about it, it does feel like he has more. Yeah. I'm, I think I'm everything pilled. Like once I'm really, really, really on board with something, I'll shill it until the day I die.

[00:09:23] So like Amber Nick, Grandia 2, Custom Robo, Bones Coffee, Orange Kickstart. You with the Custom Robo, man. You were like the world's number one, like Custom Robo-er. Hey, I can't wait till it comes out on GameCube, Nintendo Classics. But I played through with my shitty Japanese a couple years ago when I was much shittier at Japanese than I am now. I played through Custom Robo on Nintendo 64 app, the Japanese one. And I got through it. I beat the game.

[00:09:53] But, oh, that was tough. I probably have an easier time now. I can read a lot more. But boy, that was the game. Yeah, it was good. I liked it. And the V2 was on there, too. I should I should play that as well. I had Custom Robo. I had that GameCube game, but I didn't really get into it. I can't wait for that to come to Nintendo Classics. I'll definitely play it again. At the time, I just I don't know. It just didn't do it for me.

[00:10:19] The tariff thing for me in my life is Polaroid because I shoot Polaroid film. The price of Polaroid film has gone through the fucking roof, dude. It is crazy right now. Like, you're looking at like almost $25 a pack for eight pictures. That's fucking nuts. It's over $3 a picture. Polaroid has always been expensive. Don't get me wrong. Like, it's always been an expensive format to shoot.

[00:10:48] Now it's just ridiculous. I can't. I can't buy it like I used to. So not right now anyway. You cue the Breaking Bad theme song and you're like making your own like bootleg Polaroid film. They will come after your ass. Oh, my God. They will date. Well, because someone asked me that who doesn't know a lot about the stuff. He's like, is there like bootleg like Polaroid film? Can you buy like the cheap shit? Is there like generic?

[00:11:16] I'm like, no, Polaroid has that shit on lock. You have to buy it. There's or that's it. Like it ain't happening. It's not like toilet paper where it's like you can get some Kroger toilet paper. Or something. It's it's it's it's just not happening. That sucks. Check this out. Check this out, guys. I know this is a audio medium, but I want you to see this. Look at this 90s bitch I got right here. You see that? It's all good. Show it off. We're a video podcast now. Oh, that's right. Look at this thing.

[00:11:42] Look how bubbly and like, man, I think it's like a 90. I think it's from 95 or 96. This thing shoots great pictures and it looks like it's from a Spice Girls video. It is. I mean, it is. It is fantastic. Slam it to the left. The handle, the handle was broken off here on the side. That's fine. But like, I mean, I'll take it. I took it. Cost me 16 bucks on eBay to shoot some pictures. But now now the film now is more expensive than the fucking camera you can buy for cheap.

[00:12:14] So what you're saying is I need to shut down my Polaroid film operation? Yeah. Your Polaroid is nice. Polaroid? Yeah. Do the same rainbow like font and everything. All the same motif. Same thing. Ooh. You know, okay. You guys ever see this? Like if you go like, I don't know. You see like a billboard or something and they're not allowed to say like Google, but they'll say search and search and like the Google like letter, like the same colors as Google. Yeah. Something like that.

[00:12:44] Polaroid. It's fine. It'll say pictures. But in the, in the various, various rainbow color letters. Yeah. Pictures. I've got a new podcast idea. So remember the talk boy or whatever from home alone? Yeah. Everybody records their tracks on that. And then you would like, no, hang on. I didn't think this all the way through. Actually, I went that far with the talk boys and then like how, I guess you could have like

[00:13:13] four stereos with like each cassette tape and have them going all at the same time. It just like record the whole thing on another stereo. So I need five stereos and four talk boys. Are you trying to do like Dolby 5.1 surround sound with talk boys or something? Are you like, okay, but where do the yak backs I just found at the thrift store come in? Oh man.

[00:13:42] Oh, this is a perfect idea. I forgot. I forgot your own video. I should have just done a whole Polaroid show. And I should just made this my show. Basically. I forgot. I forgot. People are going to see this. It's not too late. It's never too late. I don't think I have anything around here to quote whatever band played that song. Never. You know what we need to start doing? That remind me of never too late. We need to start bringing back where the band would spell it with like never too late, like two with a two, like the number two.

[00:14:12] Never too late. We need to start doing that shit again. Oh, so it's okay when they do that. But when I do that as a joke in the discord, you're like, no penalty box. No. Yeah. Penalty box. Because you do with like Splatoon, like SPLAT, you know, like number two N. No, we can't put it in the middle of a. No. We can't put it in the middle. David Fincher's. Yeah, like driver with like the driver three with like the three in there. No, we're not. Seven. No, no, no. David Fincher's seven. S-E number seven E-N.

[00:14:42] No, I'm on board. Yeah. I'm on board. Yeah. See, like, no, we don't. We didn't need to put it in words. More numbers. More numbers in words. I'm team number in word. I don't. I don't like the numbers in words. I like the numbers to replace words, like looking for you, like number four. You boys too, man. Yeah. Yeah. Like boys, two men. And they went all the way. They did the they did the Roman numeral two, which like I'm a Roman numeral hater. But even I have to admit that's that's cool.

[00:15:10] So you're not only going to shit on me doing it. You're also going to be like, oh, Roman numerals were OK this one time. I admit it's cool. I do not approve. They get the Dre pass. The Dre Roman numeral pass. And this is not the recording I thought this was going to be today. I got to say I did not know. I did not know anything what this recording was going to be. I mean, I didn't either, but I didn't think it was going to be this. Oh, I do have one more. Hold on. I do have one more.

[00:15:40] Hell yeah. Yeah. Bring it on. Check out. Check out this old bitch from the early 80s. Look at this thing. Hell yeah. It's got a little mirror and everything, too. Does that thing still take pictures? That's the thing about old Polarais. They all still work, basically, because there's no batteries inside or anything to go bad. The batteries and like the film cartridge. You know what I mean? That's what powers it because they can't even turn on without anything in there. So they all pretty much work. Yeah.

[00:16:08] So even if you like you see one on eBay, it says like untested. Don't know. Like 90 percent of the time it works. That did not know. One of those things you have to worry about today. I learned it's not like it's not like buying old consoles or something on eBay, which I don't do. But I would imagine like the lasers can go bad or just like you get a random like PS1 or something. You know, is it going to work? Who knows? Yeah. Bees if you're lucky. I wish I got something full of bees. That would be so rad. I wish I had a mouse family inside of an old PS2.

[00:16:38] You know, like they're like the rescuers, you know, like they live there. Rescuers. Oh, my gosh. OK. Yeah. OK. We need more. We talked about this. A PS5. Why not? Just it's big enough. Yeah, but it's huge. It's cavernous in there. You know how many mice can fit in a PS5?

[00:17:06] Oh, I bet you could fit so many mice inside the original Xbox one. I think the PS5 is bigger. In my mind. I feel like it's actually bigger. I'm kind of scared to move my PS5. So I think you could fit a mouse colony in there. It's right behind me, but I can't tell. I don't know. I think many mice can fit in the PS5. Jesus Christ. Very many mice. This is the show. It's Super Ghost.

[00:17:34] Hey, we haven't done the full intro yet. Wait, what? No, there's still so much more to do. The Dre like Kramer slid in and was like Polaroids and tariffs. Yeah. Yeah. I'm talking. Sorry. You should have just said. Yeah. Look, you get me on a show and I just start talking, baby. You need to take the wheel back. Wait, did Carrie Underwood sing that Jesus take the wheel song? Did we take this full circle?

[00:18:04] I think she. Yeah, she did. Oh, back to Carrie Underwood. It all comes back. Take the wheel. You know, I'm going to if you leave me to my own devices, I'm just going to host a show. I don't know what show I'm hosting, but I'm just going to start doing it. Okay. Well, yep. This is Super Ghost. As I mentioned before. Yeah. Everybody else is out. Replaced everybody with Dre, Steve, and Darren. This is the new show for this week anyway. So yeah, we're going to do the old guest question. Dre, I know you've done it before, but fuck it.

[00:18:34] Steve and Darren haven't done it. So you're going to do it again. We'll start with Darren though. So what's your favorite gaming memory? Favorite gaming memory. Oh boy. Oh my gosh. I was talking about NBA Jam earlier and I'll share this one. This is like a sentimental like memory. Didn't have like a lot of money growing up and all that stuff.

[00:19:00] And a little Darren wanted NBA Jam tournament edition for Sega Genesis, you know, for Christmas. And it was getting close to Christmas. My mom couldn't find a copy of it, you know, but she knows she wanted to get it for me. And so she actually went out probably days before Christmas and found like some mom and pop rental shop that had it.

[00:19:20] So like rented it and like, you know, wrapped it up and everything, you know, so that on Christmas morning I could open it up and have a copy, you know, and it was like an IOU inside as well to like, oh, I'm not crying. I just have allergies. We believe you. Let it all out. But like, it was just super rad, you know, to have like her come in clutch like that and like, you know, like make magic happen as a parent to like give the kid what they want.

[00:19:49] This is what people come to the podcast for. So they want to hear grown men cry about NBA Jam. But no, no, that's fucking awesome. But yeah, then I got to keep it. We had this ridiculous like late bill and everything and she didn't care. Like that was part of the package. And then when, you know, Walmart or whatever had it in stock, she bought the full like legitimate copy. And all I did was I kept the rental cartridge and we gave back like the new copy to the rental place so I could keep my my my stats and my initials and my playthrough and all that stuff. Yeah, it was important. That's interesting.

[00:20:19] I wanted to beat all 29 NBA teams and I got to keep my record going. I didn't want to start over. That was the shitty part about renting a game like that, too, because you couldn't like, yeah, unless they were password. Well, because that's the thing. If they were password driven, the password was so gargantuan. I mean, I would have been OK with a password because, you know, I would have trusted. I mean, I've been burned in passwords before. So like writing it down very accurately and really thick, everything really confident and everything. But but yeah, that's always that's a good memory. It's a good Christmas memory.

[00:20:47] But like just, you know, as a parent, I have, you know, I have three daughters and all that stuff now. And so sometimes when, you know, you don't I'm not sure how things are going to work out. Like I'm like, well, you know what? Like, you know, you can make some magic. You can you can pull a rabbit out of a hat sometimes and come in clutch and just do the right thing. And luckily I am, you know, I'm not in the same situation I was when I was a child. Like I'm able to provide better for my kids. And, you know, that's because I learned lessons and stuff from my parents.

[00:21:13] And that was that was a cool one of a way you can you can still come through for him and not let him know about probably the stresses she was going through herself. Just like, how do I buy this damn kid a goddamn video game? These things are expensive. Stupid NBA jam. Oh, whatever. Let's get it for him. But that's that's my memory. That's great. That's an awesome one. Steve, you want to you can do the next one. What's your favorite gaming memory? Oh, I'm going to have to cheat a little bit.

[00:21:40] OK, if we're following me from fine time, we all know I love the Super Nintendo and my favorite game on the Super Nintendo Earthbound. Yes, this is going to be my third or fourth playthrough of the game. I'm in late middle school, early high school at this point. It's it's the middle of the summer. It's hot out. I got the AC blaring in the room and it's at that point of the game where in that short, tiny window where I can get the Sword of Kings for anyone that doesn't know.

[00:22:08] There's this tiny it's the only weapon that the fourth character that joins you who can use. Only one enemy can drop it. It's a one in one twenty eight shot. Basically, one percent chance this thing's going to drop it. And I'm just sitting there in the AC in this blazing hot summer and I'm like, you know what? I've never gotten this thing before. Let's just go for it. I'm sitting there for hours. Hours.

[00:22:35] You're just just watching the you win chime again and again, because if you don't know, you can just skip battles entirely. And I was way overpowered for these things. I don't even need the damn sword at this point. It was it would just be nice to have to see if it even really existed at this stage, because I've never actually seen this thing before. I've only read about it in Nintendo Power or whatever. Four fucking a.m. You won. Super Starman has a present.

[00:23:04] It has the Sword of Kings. You can't carry shit anymore. Would you like to drop an item? Okay, fine. We'll throw away some soup. Okay, you have the Sword of Kings. I don't know. I must have jumped off and made a loud noise. Steven, it is 4 a.m. Go the fuck to sleep. Okay. Sorry. Hey. I got the Sword of Kings.

[00:23:34] You should have just yelled back. I was not doing any of that. But I just I wasn't taking chances. I just turned off the TV without turning off the game. Like, we'll be the Starman Deluxe later. I'm like, we'll get back to this meal soon. You know, so I played Earthbound when I came out. I never got the Sword of Kings. I tried a little bit, but I didn't try it as long as you.

[00:24:01] The second time I played the game was on 3DS Virtual Console. My second encounter. I got the fucking thing. I wasn't even trying to get it. It just gave it to me. I was just like, okay, sure. I'll take that. I got it again on Wii U after trying because I wanted to show off on Miiverse. Remember Miiverse? Yeah. No. When you can show it off to like 100 people. Yeah, I did that there. And then I tried it on the Switch version.

[00:24:30] I'm like, well, I'm not fucking getting this. I'm even texting Andre while I'm doing it on the Discord while I'm doing this. Well, I fucking give up. I'm not. I don't need to prove this to anyone. I already did this twice. And then on my way to Starman Deluxe. Hey, Starman. Super Starman dropped the thing. It's the story. Holy fucking shit. Hey. Yeah, I got it. It's when you're not when I was not trying for it. I did not. Well, because like the one in 128 chances and the manual slash. Like strategy guide for the game.

[00:25:00] It tells you that. So I was just like, okay. I know what. I know what numbers mean. Maybe I can try. Oh, that's taking a while. Forget it. So it just 3ds blessed me very quickly. As it does everybody else. God bless the 3ds. I didn't mean for that to rhyme, but. God bless the 3ds. Yes. Trey, what's yours? I remember asking you this on another episode, but I don't remember. So fuck it. Any game memory at all.

[00:25:30] I'll come up with a different one. Okay. So like here along the lines of Darren here. I did not. I mean, like my mom was a single mom for the most part. We didn't really. I mean, she got some child support, but you know, it was tough. It's not like we it's like we had no money, but we definitely have the money for video games all the time, but she did her best in February 1990. Mario 3 comes out. That thing's impossible to find. It was like the first game.

[00:25:57] I remember being like hyped and remembering like when something is going to come out because it was such a big deal. Obviously, we couldn't find this thing in February. March rolls around. My birthday's in May. So, you know, obviously it's something I want for your birthday. She knows that. I don't know where she found this thing.

[00:26:18] Not only did I get Mario 3, I got Mario 2 and all four Ninja Turtle action figures like all four of the turtles, because those were impossible to find, too. I remember we because like we'd go bowling on Saturday morning. It was right next to a Kmart. We go to Kmart, right, to get lunch or whatever. I'd always scour because, you know, at that time, action figures are pretty cheap, just a few bucks. So we'd go in there and I'd get like a foot soldier, a rock soldier, April O'Neil, whatever.

[00:26:48] Krang never had the turtles. Those were always sold out. All fucking four of them she had in this package. I was blown away. Holy shit. That still blows me away. It's crazy. I think she camped a... I can't remember the name of the toy stores. There was a toy store that was local to San Diego that there was only like six of them in town or something like that. She found one, apparently. And she was like, she knew... This is back when you couldn't do this shit.

[00:27:15] I don't know if she called them and found out when a shipment was or whatever she did. But she got all four of the turtles. Yeah. So I was like... Because again, this was like months of me just having, well, here's another foot soldier. Here's a... You know, I had the rat king, right? I had the rat king on the vehicle. Like it's, you know, almost like the thing you see in like Turtles in Time, right? Where you have to fight them on the vehicle. That thing I had, right? I just did not have the turtles until then. So yeah, I think about that.

[00:27:44] Oh, that's awesome, man. I think the one gaming memory that sticks out to me is... It's kind of on brand with yours and Darren's. And like there was... I forget what grade I was in, but we went on this trip to Des Moines. What was it? I forget where we all went. But I brought my Game Boy Advance along with me because it was a long drive in the old school bus. And we were driving to a billion places. So I thought, okay, cool. I'll get some Pokemon in or like whatever I was playing.

[00:28:14] But somewhere along the way, I ended up losing it. I don't know if I lost it. My Game Boy Advance, I might have lost it on the bus or one of the places we went to or the place that we... I think we just stayed at a hotel. I don't remember where we slept or whatever. But then I called my mom because I had my little like track phone. I called her up. I was like, mom, I lost my Game Boy. I don't know where it is. Listen, I still had my like... I had my sock full of games. Like I didn't have a case for it or anything like that. I just put it...

[00:28:42] I had all my games in like a big tube sock and I put my Game Boy in there too. But I lost it. But then, yeah, I got home from the trip. I was all bummed. Didn't have the Game Boy to play on the ride home. I was like, what am I supposed to do with all this time? God! But I got back and my mom had went and got me a new Game Boy Advance and an even cooler one because I had the original like Indigo one. She got me the see-through blue, the glacier blue one. I was like, mom. Shit. Thank you.

[00:29:12] Like that's... That's awesome. So brand spanking new Game Boy Advance. That's fucking awesome. I had the Indigo one because I knew it would match the GameCube. So I wanted the Indigo ahead of time. That was my favorite. But you guys know my controversial take. With the see-through electronics, I don't like them. I don't know why. I don't know why. I've always... It's such a weird thing for me to feel that way about. We all have that. You know how I feel about cheese.

[00:29:41] So you can have your heart take. You are so weird. I heard about you the other day. I'm like, what's wrong with you? Aaron. Yeah. I've known this about him for quite a while. And it's been... It's very upsetting. I try not to think about it. Look, it was weird for me too. Because Andre, I had the see-through Game Boy Advance on the black GameCube. And I don't know. A few years... If everything came out a few years later, I probably would have matched everything too. If I'm being real. Yeah. I saw the future and I was like, I need the Indigo.

[00:30:10] But quite frankly, that was like the color I wanted. I definitely didn't want the jizz white or whatever that one was. And then like, I didn't want to... I mean, it was just like, come on, man. It was the best color by far. Oh. I wanted to confirm the actual color before I like lock that to memory. It's true. I mean, I'm sorry. It's what it looks like. What can I say? I mean, that's what I thought immediately. Look, I was 19 when the Game Boy Advance came out.

[00:30:40] I mean, there was very few things on my mind back then. I mean, I'm... Milk white. Just being real. Arctic. But yeah, that's so fucking cool. She brought you... Arctic. She had you the Game Boy Advance when you got home. That's so cool. Yeah. And I think I called her either before we were leaving or like the day before we were leaving to come home. So she must have gotten it like... Like right after I called her, she must have either gone out and gotten it or got it like before I got home.

[00:31:10] But yeah. That's kind of wild too. Because like, you know, what if you found it? You know? Then like you come back home and be like, oh, well, I guess you have two Game Boy Advances now. Here you go. Well, then he'd be ready for some e-reader action to send himself the Eon ticket and those extra levels and Mario Advance 4. I missed out on all of that. Yeah, I didn't have an e-reader. I wanted one so bad because that was around the time that Digimon Tamers was out

[00:31:39] and they were doing the wild card swipes and shit and I wanted to do that shit with the e-reader. So I don't recall if they made like the Digibice toys for the Digimon Tamers. But yeah, I wanted that e-reader so I could just be like, bam! And like swipe cards and cool, like wild manners. That new Digimon they showed at the Summer Games Fest looks fucking insane. I didn't know Digimon was getting that crazy these days. Digimon's pretty crazy, man. It's like, I don't know if you've played

[00:32:08] or looked at Survive at all, but Digimon Survive is pretty cool. It's like basically an interactive like Digimon anime with tactics, RPG stuff in it. It's pretty cool. Pretty sweet. Okay. Or tactics aren't your thing. That's... No, that's how we trick Steve into playing things. We are doing the Triangle Strategy Show. I wrote it on our list of things. I will piss myself off. I will get mad. Everyone will hear my fury or I will learn to love.

[00:32:38] We will do that show. I'm committed to it. I'd like to note that I was expressly left out of the Triangle Strategy Show, even though... No, you're going to make me mad. You know I'm the one that plays the strategy games. You're going to piss me off. You can't join us. It has to be Aaron. No, Steve. I'm sorry. I tried. No, it's fine. Or I forbid you. I forbid you from being on Fine Time. There's other projects we could do, Aaron. It's fine. Like Digimon.

[00:33:07] We could do Digimon. We could do... Oh, fuck. Oh, we still have to do Brothership. Oh, man. And Yu-Gi-Oh. Yeah. And Yu-Gi-Oh. I forgot about Brothership. I'm so sorry, Steve. Shit. You know how it is. You know that episode's supposed to be out in March, folks? I'm just saying. I'm pretty sure it was all on me, because I was like, oh, I haven't bought the game yet. And then I was like, oh, I haven't beaten it yet.

[00:33:35] But it is like 25 hours too fucking long. That's why I keep telling these guys, just record the episode. I'm sorry, Aaron. Like, at some point, can we have an episode, please? Well, Aaron's the boss, and it didn't feel right to just say this on Aaron. But now it's gone so long, where it's like, you may as well just fucking do it when you do it. Well, we'll get that Yu-Gi-Oh one going. I've been cracking down on Yu-Gi-Oh.

[00:34:03] I need to get back to cracking down on Yu-Gi-Oh. I beat a bunch of them. Well, I'm not expecting you to beat them, but I was a sicko and beat a bunch of them. Darren, do you fuck with Yu-Gi-Oh at all? Like, have you played the card game or even like the cartoon or anything like that? No, I do not have the heart of the cards. There's a trap card here under me and never played Yu-Gi-Oh.

[00:34:34] Had some friends who got into it. I was a little bit older, so like I physically played like a real card game, like a grown-ass man, and I played Magic the Gathering. I thought you were going to say like Slapjack or something. Old maid. A little goldfish action. No, I played Magic like growing up and everything. So like, you know, a digital card game sounded like really cool, but it just didn't hook me when I was at that age and I didn't get into the show or anything.

[00:35:04] So that kind of passed me by. Same thing with Digimon. I was into like the early Pokemon seasons and everything, but once Digimon started kind of rolling out, like I felt like I was just aging out and like, you know, I needed to get on a damn skateboard and cut myself or something like that. Not cut myself. I mean, like fall down or hurt myself type of thing. Yeah. Just to be alarmed. It's funny that you feel that way because I felt that way too at that time. I was just kind of aged out of this, but I was also like sitting in my room

[00:35:32] playing fucking like Sonic Adventure, right? So like how aged out was I really? I'm like 17 when that comes out, but I was like, I was hell into that, right? So like, I don't know. I guess it's just kind of weird. Yeah, it's just the way the mind worked. Yu-Gi-Oh got very dumb over time. It was always really dumb, but I mean, it got really dumb over time. Like the original series ended like, oh no, people are still buying cards. What do we do with this? We make it dumber. And then they made it dumber.

[00:36:00] Any clip I see of Yu-Gi-Oh is hilarious. Oh, it is. Laugh out loud. Laugh out loud. Funny. Like, I have no idea what's happening and the things they are saying with such gravity is just, oh, chef's kiss. Oh man. There's so many moments. So the series that came out after the original Yu-Gi-Oh, GX, they have this one dumb motherfucking character in like the main cast. I think his name is Chumlee.

[00:36:29] And like every single line out of his dumb fucking mouth is like grilled cheese. Like he's just some dumb. Like he's just constantly going off about how much he loves grilled cheese and shit. Like, can we get this character out of here, please? The edgy and the edgy, you know, side character from the first show builds a school around the card game. And this is the dumbest motherfucker in the school. He's just always looking for food. Yep. Yep.

[00:36:58] That is a koala deck. Like a deck built around koalas and kangaroos. Yeah. Oh yeah. Kangaroos. That's right. Oh man. What a reference. Wow. This is really dumb. You were not kidding. And it gets dumber than that. What is the, uh, what is the next series ends? And then they start riding around on motorcycles. Oh boy. I was wondering what the, uh, GX stood for in F-Zero GX to see if it was the same as Yu-Gi-Oh, but it's probably not.

[00:37:28] I think Yu-Gi-Oh GX is like, it's supposed to be like next generation, but it's like flip-flopped. Yeah. F-Zero GX, GameCube, right? GameCube and arcade, F-Zero AX. Yes. Yeah. Oh, arcade version was AX, GX would be GameCube X. Yep. Mm-hmm. Okay. Checks out. So Yu-Gi-Oh. That's, that's what I always thought. Yu-Gi-Oh GameCube X. Yu-Gi-Oh GX.

[00:37:59] Yu-Gi-Oh ripped off F-Zero. I see. And you gotta see some of these, like some of these new cards have, have just like chunks of text on them, man. Like they have effects that are like way too long. It's like going off the, going off the card. It's like this long ass card you pull out. Like. Instead of that, they make it so small. Like they crunch it down to like real small

[00:38:27] and you have to get out the old like oversized. I refuse to believe there's real people still playing this game. I mean, I know they are because they keep selling cards and there's tournaments and world champions crowned every year. Oh dude, no. But Yu-Gi-Oh. Who's reading all of that? Yeah. I go to San Diego Comic-Con every year and Konami maintains like, like floor space on the show floor. And it is 95% just tables and Yu-Gi-Oh cards like on the main show floor of it all. Like, like I'm, I always see Konami's banner up and I'm like, oh shit, Konami. Like, oh, I wonder if we have like some Metal Gear stuff

[00:38:57] or Castlevania stuff. What's going on over here? And it's just like, oh no, that's right. Some Onimusha. Yu-Gi-Oh. It's the same shit at New York Comic-Con too. I do, I put on the same clown makeup every time. Maybe this year it's going to be a Castlevania Advance display. No. No. Just more fucking Yu-Gi-Oh. Some blue eyes white dragons. Can we be a Yu-Gi-Oh game here? No. Did you bring your cards? No. Then, no. Then fuck off. In my... Don't play me with your pendulum decks.

[00:39:27] In my, uh, my little F-0 GX lookup, of course I have to see that Amusement Vision was the developer, you know, um, partner with Sega. And they would go on to ultimately rename their studio title to Ryuga Go... How do you pronounce it? Whatever. The... Ryuga Gotoku. Yeah, uh, the Yakuza, like a dragon developer. So, they've been churning out hits for decades. What? Mm-hmm. Yeah, they became Yakuza.

[00:39:55] Yeah, they were, uh, the Yakuza Studio. A new entertainment R&D department for a couple years as well, and... Yeah. I bought through this little spider, I apologize. Um, why haven't they made a new goddamn F-0? Come on, Ryuga Go to, uh, RGG Studio's still around, making new F-0. They're doing Virtua Fighter right now, baby. Yeah, it's not on them to save Nintendo, bail Nintendo's ass out. Nintendo was struggling in the GameCube era there to license out their games

[00:40:22] to others to bail them out, and so Sega came in clutch with their, uh, F-0 GX. Sorry, Nintendo. They're gonna take his ass. That's a message board message I read in 2004. Oh, my God. I mean, wasn't there, like, some, like, Namco helped co-develop, um, like, Donkey Konga and stuff like that, um, I believe. Yeah. And, uh, you know, Sega coming in here with the F-0 action. Like, it just, to me, it felt like Nintendo, like, was just struggling to make games. In my head. My head of it all.

[00:40:52] In 2002, Darren was like, dang, Nintendo's struggling to make games. They gotta get bailed out by all these other folks here. Well, judging by, like, how unfinished, like, Mario Sunshine and, like, Wind Waker are, Wind Waker worked out, but, like, Sunshine did not. Like, yeah, they were, they had to just, at some point, that it's like, we have to ship something, you know? So, they were, yeah, they were in a place. Didn't, um, wasn't, didn't Capcom help develop Wind Waker? I think I remember hearing something about that.

[00:41:22] No. I don't think we're not Capcom. They did, um, I mean, they did come in. Capcom did, Capcom did, like, handheld stuff. They did, like, Oracle of Ages and Seasons. And then, uh, Minish Cap. Minish Cap. Minish Cap. Yep, yep, that's what I was thinking. Okay. Okay, those are Capcom games, yeah. That's right. Well, don't Oracle of Ages and Seasons actually have the Capcom logo or make me shit up? No, they do. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay, because I haven't played them since it came out, so. Oh, those were good.

[00:41:49] So, I remember, uh, as a kid at the old Scholastic Book Fair. I don't know if you guys have them where you are. Sure did. Okay, cool. Yeah. Um, the Scholastic Book Fair, they had these books that were basically, like, the novelizations of Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages. But it was in, like, I think it was one book, but it was, like, double-sided, I think. Maybe there were two books. I think there were two books, actually. Yeah. And they were, yeah, just, like, they have pictures of all the characters and shit in there and you could read the story of Link doing the Oracle.

[00:42:19] Well, not doing the Oracles, but. Whoa, what kind of book is this? Yeah. I didn't mean that. Love it. That's great. I want to read that. Nailing the Oracles, just going to town on them. Love it. Those, I miss those kinds of books. I think I had one, I think I had one about, like, Super Mario Bros 2 or, like, something. I don't know. It was whichever one had, like, the little genie doors and, like, Birdo on the magic carpet

[00:42:49] and stuff. That was very prominent throughout the book. I had a couple of those, like, I think they were part of a series. I had, like, a Shadowgate book, like a novel. And I had a Ninja Gaiden one as well. Whoa! Okay, that would be pretty cool. Yeah, I had those. So, the Worlds of Power series. Thank you. Yeah. I don't know if Shadowgate's part of that, but I think Ninja Gaiden, definitely. Okay, both of them. Okay, yeah, I had both of those. Bionic Commando, Wizards and Warriors, Simon's Quest. Wizards and Warriors?

[00:43:19] Yeah, Metal Gear. I did not know that. Simon's Quest. Blaster Master was the one, I know, because that was in my, the latest issue of Retro Game Zine that you can purchase from pixelsandpolygons.net right now. You reminded me of that shit when I saw it. Yeah, there's an article in there about it. You'll probably know. I remember reading about one for Mega Man 2 where, I think they just based it off the cover where they turned a man into a robot and then he becomes a human again at the end. Yes.

[00:43:45] That's, I think the only one that actually had, I mean, I think the only one that really had any like standing clout afterwards was the Blaster Master one. I think Sunsoft ended up kind of taking some of the plots created for that book and using it in like its like canon storyline for some of the future games. The other ones were like... I think Blasting Again, right? The PS1 game? Yeah. Yeah. I think they use it for some time. And then, but yeah, the other games were definitely just like, you know, fan fiction one-offs of like, hey, I played this game for 15 minutes.

[00:44:14] I can write a story around what's happening here. The Ninja Gaiden one was weird. The Shadowgate one was like what happens before they get to the castle, I think. It wasn't really about like Castle Shadowgate itself. So it was weird. I remember, I don't know. I remember liking them. They were good tween fare, I guess. Tween fare? I was a tween at one point. Unless Shadowgate was a choose your adventure book. What else would you do with that? Yeah, this one. I love choose your adventure books. I don't know why.

[00:44:44] I love them so much. That company's... Bring those back. They've come back actually. They do have some modern ones. Yes. The whatever the estate of the R.A. Salvatore or whoever it was or R.A. Montgomery, whoever it was who wrote a lot of them. They've brought them back and it's kind of a license thing now. And so they have done some licensed like Stranger Things, Choose Your Own Adventure and stuff like that. But there are some just original like YA style, you know, the car chase, you know, and things like that.

[00:45:12] Like they were really cool. I bought some just to like see if my kids would like them. They did not read them. And then so my wife thought it would be a good idea if on the drive home from San Diego, I just read it out loud and made everybody like vote and choose what we were going to do. So that's the way to do it. I made them participate. And my oldest did kind of like it. So maybe one day she'll start. Yeah, that's I remember doing that, too.

[00:45:39] I think my sister would read out loud and the rest of us would be like, you know, try to smash the crystal. Smash the crystal. Choose on where to wait. Yeah, exactly. Yep. That's a new new podcast idea. We're just going to read like Goosebumps, choose your own adventure books. If you want to go left, skip to the time code 3258. If you want to go right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, no, I could work. We'll figure that out, too. We're hammering out that idea and the the talk boy or talk man, whatever it's called

[00:46:08] with the 15 stereos or whatever. We're figuring that out. Don't be 5.1 surrounds down talk boy. Yeah, there'll be 15.1. 15.1. Excuse me. Sorry. Jesus Christ. Prologic to 15.1. I remember I bought like as a kid or as a kid, my parents bought me three of those like Artemis Fowl books.

[00:46:35] They had like the gold covers and like those were pretty big back in the time, I think. I remember I didn't have those. I remember saying those, though. I forgot the fuck they were. I remember just they said the word sunstone like every other word. They had shadows. Shadows. And then that's like all I remember about those books was just sunstones, shadows. That's the book. Did y'all read the the Animorphs? Y'all read those? Like sadly. Yes. Yeah. I read a fair amount of those as well.

[00:47:05] They were so stupid, but I don't know. I read them anyway. No, I never read Animorphs. I was big on Goosebumps, but Animorphs were not my thing. I never got into Goosebumps. I don't know why. I never I never got into it. Dude, I used to bring like as many of my Goosebumps books to school like every day in my backpack, like as if somebody like like Resident Evil 4 merchant, you know, like what do you buy? Like I just open up my bag. Like it made no sense. It was always heavy.

[00:47:34] But like, you know, I'd be on the bus ride home and I open my backpack and be like, yep, 18 various versions of Goosebumps books all available to me. I've read them all. You were not kidding. You have all the Goosebumps. Goosebumps. Yeah, it was ridiculous. I'd get to middle school, though, and I'd do the same thing with video game magazines. I'm like, all right, cool. Let me bring at least eight months of EGM here just in case somebody needs to pop open and flip back to some pages here. And I would bring them with me every day and, you know, silent reading period or whatever.

[00:48:04] You know, I have 20 minutes to read. And, you know, I wasn't going to read eight months of EGM or anything, but like I wanted to have options, you know, so I just overload my backpack with garbage. We're laughing, but what if somebody really needed to know what they thought of Gex64? Yeah. Was that as well received? That's very valid. We didn't have smart phones back then. I would only bring the latest issue. Once the new issue came out, the other one goes out of my backpack. I would just pop that sucker in. Hey, I got the latest.

[00:48:34] I always wanted to be first, right? I got the latest one. So, yeah. Oh, man. Because if you subscribe, they would show up at your house sooner than they show up at the show on the shelf. So, like, if you have a subscription, you were the, you know, you're premium king dick. Dude, did you guys ever get into Game Informer? Yeah. I think it was. It came with the GameStop Pro or whatever nonsense thing. Yeah.

[00:49:01] I used to have, like, just, like, a gigantic stack of those that I was saving just for, like, you know, whatever. Maybe these would be cool to keep. We'll time capsule. I don't know what happened to them, but, man, I wish I still had those. I had, I think the very first one I got was from when Gears of, like, the original Gears of War first came out. So, God damn it. I wish I still had that. I don't remember. That was never a magazine I was that into. So, I don't remember.

[00:49:29] I mean, I sure, I, look, I had GamePro Pro or whatever. GamePro? GameStop Pro or whatever. GamePro Pro. It was GameStop. GameStop Power Up Rewards? Yeah. Well, that's what it was last called or currently called. But, like, way back when. I don't even know if they actually even had a name for it. It was, when they first offered it, it was $10 for 10% off and 10 issues of the magazine for 10 months. And it was like, there you go.

[00:49:54] Yeah, my first issue was for Siphon Filter 2 when I bought that on the PlayStation. And I was like, I convinced my parents. Well, the dude at the counter convinced me that I needed it so that I convinced my mom that I was like, look, I know I'm buying the game, but, like, they have a strategy guide in this issue and I'll save 10% off in the future. Not off this one because this is a new game. But if I come back to spend more money with them, they're going to help me save. So it makes total sense. Mom, come on. And, yeah, that was my first one.

[00:50:22] That was, like, issue, I don't know, in the 60s or 70s or so. But, yeah, I was, I rode that subscription out to, like, issue 300 or whatever, you know, for, like, a long time, you know, with GameStop. It was a good magazine. EGM definitely was my favorite. But I think GameInformer still did a good job of, like, having the personality of the editors, like, they would have, like, little bios about them each month about what their favorite games were and what they were playing and stuff like that.

[00:50:49] So it was neat to keep up with the personality of who was writing it. Like, that's why I loved EGM so much, just because, like, the review crew and, like, knowing who was, like, oh, yeah, I, like, I love, you know, Milkman. Milkman's reviews always are, like, aligned with how I feel about these games. Like, I trust him. Like, oh, Shu is way too tough on games. Like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to read his reviews anymore. He's the worst. But it was all, it was all fun. But, yeah, GameInformer was a good, like, B-tier magazine.

[00:51:16] I think I felt, like, a lot more appreciation for it than I think a lot of my friends did. But I really did dig that magazine. There was no AGM, but it was, it was good. GameFan was the magazine for me. That was, that was the one I loved. The personalities, they covered anime, which I was into, right? Like, no other magazine was really doing that. Like, it was just, it was just perfect for me. That was just, like, it, you know?

[00:51:43] They focus a lot less on, like, the tips and tricks side of it, of, like, push-button codes and, like, oh, here's how you do all the vitalities. I mean, they had, like, some of that stuff, don't get me wrong. But, like, that's probably why they weren't as popular as, like, the rest of them. But, like, their layouts were amazing. Their, the layouts were their reviews and previews and stuff. That shit went so hard. It was, it was insane. Some of their takes were really bad.

[00:52:12] But, like, you know, hey, I mean, what can you do? But, like, extraordinarily bad. But some of the stuff they would say sometimes is just, like, what are you, what is wrong with you? I think a lot of that, though, was, too, was, like, they weren't necessarily trying to write to sell those games for the advertising dollars, per se. Like, they were, like, hey, I'm a fan of this game. Let me write why I liked this game. And sometimes, like, cool, you just liked a garbage game, but you really liked it. And so you're going, like, to town on, like, why you think this is, like, above and beyond exceptional

[00:52:40] when in reality it was, you know, not that great of a game. Right. Like, it just, well, but here's the thing. Also why I appreciated this that they would actually show, think about games back then that were divisive. Final Fantasy III. Final Fantasy III. That was not divisive. That game fucking sucks. Bubsy III, or Bubsy IIID. Final Fantasy VIII was, like, some, it was very polarizing, right? Some people love it. Some people hate it. I hate it. Right?

[00:53:09] Every magazine I read, like, raved over it. I was, like, am I crazy? Am I the only one who, like, this sucks, right? Like, and, like, I don't know, GameFam was, like, the only one who said, like, yeah, I don't think this is very good. You know? And I was just, like, okay, finally, somebody, like, somebody saying it. Right? But it felt weird because, like, all my, none of my friends like Final Fantasy VIII. I was like, am I, like, why does every, why is every score so high on this fucking piece of shit? Right? Then I come to find out, you know, like I said, it is polarizing.

[00:53:38] Some people actually really do like that game. I am not one of them. But, yeah, it just, I guess, I mean, that's a whole, that's a whole other large discussion that I always try to have on FineTime as well about, like, you know, like, review scores and, like, what are we, what are we even doing out here? But, like, besides that, yeah, it just felt like sometimes GameFan would be like, yeah, this piece of shit, that's like Darren said, oh, this piece of shit is really good. And it's like, I don't think this is really good.

[00:54:03] But, you know, I appreciated the different takes, I guess, is what I'm trying to say, even if I didn't agree with it. I was digging into the, like, older magazines and stuff, doing, like, the research for, like, the books and stuff I do. And the earliest issues of GamePro, they didn't have their, like, iconic, like, you know, fun factor, like, wow, like, five out of five guy. Their earliest issues had no scores at all. They were just a review of the game talking about, like, its merits and what was, like, fun about it and not and whatever.

[00:54:30] And they were kind of pressured into putting a scale because of all of the competition and other magazines, like, forcing the arbitrary numbers on things, you know. But, like, it's not really fair to, like, assign a numerical value to something like that when everyone's taste is going to be quite different, you know. But nobody wants to read an entire, like, article on a game to, like, you know, have a judgment on it. They want to know a snap score, like, thumbs up or thumbs down. Should I get it or should I not?

[00:54:57] And they used it more for, like, a sales vessel instead of, like, actually articulating, like, journalism and, like, you know, speaking something and critiquing something. So I always felt bad for magazines like that. But at the same time, as a kid, I was also at recess saying, like, no, that game you, like, sucks. See, you got a 4.5 right here. And this is why you're dumb. And you should go home and eat a diaper because you are so sad. Yeah, I was probably a dumb kid. I didn't need to be that mean. Damn.

[00:55:28] Damn, Darren. Adult Darren's good, though. Adult Darren's learned, you know. But Kid Darren sucked. But crazy. He had a lot of Goosebumps books, though, if you want to read them. I've read a Goosebump or two, and I've never. Is that the pearl of Goosebumps? A Goosebump? A Goosebump or two. I think that's something you have to take a pill for. The singular of Goosebumps? Yeah. What are you talking about? Didn't you get all your photography lessons from Say Cheese and Die? That's a Goosebumps book? I think it's the 4.5. Is that a Goosebump?

[00:55:58] Yes. Or Piano Lessons can be Murder, Monster Blood 1 through 6. Night of the Living Dummy. Yeah. There's a Monster. Yeah, Monster Blood. There's six of them, I'm pretty sure. Monster Blood was hot shit. Let me tell you. That was the Super Mario of Goosebumps. It was. I'll take it. Breeder beware. You're in for a scare. Ooh. I remember never being scared when reading those. Had a good time.

[00:56:28] They needed a tagline for the TV show, I mean. You know what was the TV show? Oh, you know what was the TV show? You know what was really scary about those? Canadians. Ah! Oh, it was the 80s and 90s. It was a kid's show. Of course it was Canadian. I remember the Goosebumps TV show and also Eerie Indiana, you know, were two like. I remember that. Yeah, like two like spooky adjacent, you know, like as kids, I was like, all right, finally horror stuff. You know, when I'm at my uncle's house and I can watch Nine to the Living Dead and R-rated stuff, like this is cool.

[00:56:57] But as I'm back home, I can only watch whatever's available to me on Fox Kids and that's Goosebumps and Eerie Indiana. Yeah, my dad's house, I could watch like Total Recall and Robocop and shit. You know, Goosebumps would have been it. Maybe. Maybe. Man, my mom was even skittish about PG-13. She, I remember, I mean, maybe I was a tad younger at the time. She did not want me to see Batman. Batman 89. What the fuck? I don't know. She was like very, I don't know.

[00:57:26] I have no idea. Maybe should I text her right now and ask her, hey, why did you remember not letting me see Batman? Can I watch Batman? What's wrong? But Batman Returns, no fucking problem. I don't know. She was weird sometimes. Sometimes. It's always the moms. My dad, when my mom was doing other errands and things, hey, yeah, you want to go see Mortal Kombat? Yeah. Even though it's PG-13, like this was before my first R-rated movie, of course, but like

[00:57:54] that was, that was the hit PG-13 movie at the time. Like, yeah, let's go see Mortal Kombat. It was dumb, but you know, we, we, we. I remember my friend's dad, it was, we're all 15, 14 or 15. He took us all to see Starship Troopers. It was the fucking best night of my life. That shit was so good. Oh my God. That, we, we talked about that for months. I had, I remember. Oh, go ahead.

[00:58:24] I don't remember how old I was, but my mom rented Fast and Furious, like the very first Fast and Furious movie from, I don't know if they do this in other states, but in Iowa, there were a lot of gas stations that you could rent games and movies at. There was a local gas station that she rented Fast and Furious from because she was like, oh, fast cars. Ha ha. The kids will love this. And there was lots of people in like, I guess like suggestive sexual like situations.

[00:58:53] And we were just watching it and she would try to like cover my eyes and shit. It's like, no mom, I want to see this. Stop. No. I want to see the cars. They stole. What is, I'm looking at the cars. They stole VCRs and they're trying to fence them. I want to learn how to do that. So I'm a tuna fish mom. Stop. I had, it didn't happen very often. Maybe two summers had to spend like a week or two out at my grandma's sister's house.

[00:59:22] So she's like, what does that make her a great aunt or something? Great aunt maybe. But ultra religious, super conservative woman in Yuma, Arizona. So places you didn't want to be at in the summertime. Spawn 1997 film comes out and me as a 10 year old and my brother was like 12. We somehow convince her to like take us to the movie theater to buy a ticket to the R rated movie called Spawn. And she's like, no, I'm not doing that. You cannot absolutely see that at all.

[00:59:51] I'm like, no, our mom would let us. It's totally fine. It's not that bad. And like we badgered her into like believing us. So she drove us down to the theater and she's like, all right, I'll come back in two hours to pick you up. And as we go up to buy the tickets, they're like, no, this is R rated. You got to have an adult, you know? And we're like, oh no. So we had to go back to the car, like wave her down and be like, hey, they want you to buy the tickets. And she's like, why is that? And like, I'm not sure. You know, don't worry about it. Just come buy the tickets. And like the dude at the, they were like really trying to like, like talk us out of going to see it.

[01:00:21] They were like, oh yeah, this is an R rated movie. There's a lot of suggestive content in it. And then she's like getting cold feet. Like, oh, I don't know. I already told you boys. I don't think you should be seeing this. And I'm like, no, no, no. He just, they just have to say that it's really, it's not that bad. We've heard about it. We've seen it before. And like, I have no idea how we convinced her to do this, but again, ultra conservative, like super religious, you know, old, you know, grandma, sister lady, you know, bought tickets for two kids to see spawn R rated movie. It was fucking awesome. Yeah.

[01:00:51] Oh man. Good. Yeah. One scene where the clown shits his pants. I bet your grandma was like, oh no. Oh no. She didn't stay to see the movie. Luckily we got to see it by ourselves and you know, just come out and flag her down to pick us up. Uh, but yeah, so good. Um, I, do you remember? Well, see, here's the thing. I'm thinking about it. My mom was fucking weird. She took me to see Terminator two. I was nine years old. She took me to see that and that was no fucking problem.

[01:01:20] So like, I don't know why she's being so weird about Batman. Like that's my, this is my Terminator two. This is the thumbs up. Thumbs up. Gotcha. Slowly. Slowly. Where's the lava? That's right here. You don't have any, you don't have a lava. Okay. I can't see it. Okay. Got it. It's hot. Cool. It's nice. Yeah. No problem with that. Um, do you remember the first time you bought your own R rated ticket though? Cause I do. It was the matrix. Hmm. That was R rated. Yes.

[01:01:50] No, I, I don't remember the first one, but I do remember it. Actually, this could have been the first one. Um, what have been, I don't know. Yeah. Spice world in, uh, 1998. Um, no, I'm just kidding. Um, God damn it. If that were rated R, I would have went to see it. I would have definitely went to see it. There was once I went to, uh, like three, three movies came out. I wanted to see all three of them on the same weekend.

[01:02:21] And, uh, uh, everybody bailed on me. It was like, dude, you know what? I'm going to go to the movie theater alone. I'm going to see these solo. This will be totally fine. So I wanted to see the descent, you know, which was R rated, um, Talladega nights and the night listener with Robin Williams. And, uh, they were all good movies. I liked all of them, but, uh, I bought a ticket, went in and saw one of them. I think I saw the night listener came out the same lady who was probably my age was still selling tickets. And I was like, Oh, this is embarrassing.

[01:02:47] I can't buy a second movie ticket to a second movie, uh, with her still saying. So I killed some time across the street, came back. She's still there. I'm like super embarrassed. So whatever, buy Talladega nights ticket, go and see it, come out. And she's still there. I'm like, dude, I've got to see the descent. How long is this damn shift? You've been here for two movies. Like what is happening here? So I bail out cause I'm just embarrassed and go home. Uh, my wife comes home from work. I'm like, yo, honey, I got to see this third movie. I didn't get to see it. And she's like, that's fine. Which one did you not get to see?

[01:03:17] And she is not a horror movie fan at all. And I was like, uh, the descent. And she's like the cave one with the monsters. And I was like, I don't know if they're monsters. I mean, it could be, they turn on each other. Maybe they're real nice people. So we went back, but that was definitely an R rated one. And I would have been, you know, 17, 18 or so at that time, I think. Um, but remember getting right in, you know, no, no issues. Like feeling excited that I could see an R rated movie, but you know, this was, I was also

[01:03:44] dealing with the fear and embarrassment of hoping this woman was not going to still be there. I want to see a third movie today. Don't judge me. Yeah, it was definitely, it was definitely the matrix. It could have been the South park movie, but I don't think so. I think that came out after it was definitely summer 99 though, for sure. So I think it was matrix. I think South, South park, the movie. I remember having to go with my dad for that one. No. Okay. Yeah.

[01:04:11] I was too young to go by myself at the time and he, and he needed it. Oh, I don't think that knowing what I know about him very little. I don't think he'd be, be into that. That was a very 17 year old movie. We loved it. We thought it was the funniest thing we'd ever seen. Yeah. I think my first R rated movie that I, uh, that I was able to like not have an adult

[01:04:37] therefore I, it was either Freddie versus Jason or Jason X, whichever one gold. Whichever one came last. I forget which one came after. I think Jason X, I think I'm not too up on that though. I'm pretty sure it's Jason X. Cause I think, I think it was just me and some friends from school. I, if I remember right, or no, maybe me and some cousins. I don't remember.

[01:05:02] Uh, me and a couple other people, um, they were just like, Hey, I got a car. Uh, do you want to go, like, go do something? Like, yeah, let's go see this movie. And then it was Jason doing something, neither Jason in space or Jason beating the piss on a Freddy Krueger. Yeah. No, I think it was Jason X. Yeah. Well, Jason X was the space one though. Was, was, was Jason X the space one. Okay. Yeah. I think it was that. I'm strongly resisting the urge to look it up on my phone to see which one came before

[01:05:32] the other, but I'm doing this for you, Dre. I'm not going to do it. I'll do it. You can do it. This is your show. You do whatever the fuck you want. I want to do it. Um, I, um, I remember, I love seeing the tradition carried on though. I remember when I went to go see John wick three, there's a 15 year old kid there and dad, I was like, Oh, he's, you know, he's taking him. Oh, mom, mom's out of town. So I've taken him to see John wick. And I'm like, hell yeah. I fist bumped the kid and everything like you're going to, you're going to remember this forever kid.

[01:06:02] I promise. That's, that's gotta be better than mine. The first R rated movie I was taken to in the movies, not, not shown at home because my dad showed me plenty of R rated movies at home before this was lethal weapon for, Oh yeah. I was glad to finally, you know, be taken to an R rated movie to be, you know, shown that level of trust at whatever age that was. But, uh, even back then I'm like, this wasn't very great. I don't think. Well, that's the thing about terminator two, right?

[01:06:30] It's rated R, but it's not like, you know, I mean, I think the most you see in that movie is like, I don't know. Like maybe I don't, it's not that, it's not that bad. Well, it's like, it's like kind of what Steve just said about the matrix. It's like, yeah, it's rated R, but it's not like, you know, it's not John wick. It's not sure. I mean, that's for sure. So, you know, you want to know what mine probably was. And again, this is me probably just buying a ticket by myself, not being with anybody

[01:06:59] Borat probably. That's awesome. Actually. That's fucking amazing. I'm trying to do the math here. Did I have my license yet? Blah, blah, blah. To just, you know, finally go by myself to a movie. Borat. Borat. And the odds are it's probably Borat. That's a great one though. That movie is so good. Oh, man. You know, I only saw that movie once when it came out at the theater and I still

[01:07:26] remember like most of it, I remember like all the bits, like it's still funny. Just for you. I remember them fighting naked. I remember that. Like they were. Yeah. And what movie? Borat. Oh, they were like slapping each other. They were naked. Yeah. It was fucking weird. They barely, they barely blurred his dick. So they wouldn't give like a 17 or something. Yeah. Like it was, it was really fucking wild. But just to update you, your, your Jason X was released theatrical.

[01:07:56] Basically in April of 2002 and Freddie versus Jason was a 2003. Okay. So it's Freddie versus Jason then. I would have been 12 when Freddie versus Jason came out. So I don't think that's it. I guess my, someone, someone must've taken me as a 12 year old kid. Someone must've taken me to Freddie versus Jason or Jason X, either one. And like both of them have so much sex in them. Someone was like, fuck it.

[01:08:24] Let's just take this 12 year old kid to go see this slasher film. Like, I don't know. On Christmas day, we went to go see the hateful late. I guess this would be, what year would it be? 2015. There was a kid in the front row. I mean, I want to say they were like seven or eight years old about to see the hateful late. And I was like thinking to myself, Oh my God, this, this, this cannot be. If it's during Christmas, their parents must be working at the theater. Oh, I think they were.

[01:08:53] I don't know, man. But she sat there the whole time and watched it. I don't know what they absorbed. Like good God. But like they learned some interesting vocabulary that day. That's for sure. If they didn't know, they didn't know the N word before. They sure do now. Oh man. Okay. Like for showing up after school break ends and shouting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't be, don't be here.

[01:09:21] Don't be saying the word you just heard 500 times in this movie. For some reason, when you said hateful eight, my mind went to fast and the furious, but no, that's fate. Fate of the furious. Is that what the fury? Yeah. I don't know much about, uh, fast and furious, but yeah, that's already more than I know. So no, the Tarantino movie with the titles. God damn it. Like, uh, fat, no, I'm trying to think of what they can do. Fat and the furious. Fat and the furious. Okay.

[01:09:50] That's when I skipped dinner. I'm pretty, pretty sure that this is true. So this is okay to say, um, in a podcast because I'm pretty sure it's true. Um, but Vin Diesel apparently had a thing where he wouldn't do sequels to his projects. And so, um, he would like, you know, the, the weirdest one he did was, uh, from pitch black. He did Chronicles of Riddick, but he was, he felt okay with that because of a whole title change. And it was like a prequel type of thing, but he wasn't doing sequels to any of his stuff.

[01:10:19] So that's why he wasn't in the too fast, too furious. But when he comes back, it's because they don't call it the, the fast and the furious. They call it like fast and furious or something like that. Like he, he ended up just like doing something where it's like his morality of like not doing sequels was gone. Like, you know, it's like, Hey, we can still check this box, but I can also get a paycheck here that I desperately need. Cause I'm not like the world's biggest star anymore or ever. Um, it's so it's, why was he like that? He's a weird dude. Whatever.

[01:10:49] Weird dude. But didn't they, didn't they do like, no triple X too. It's somebody else. Didn't it? Yeah. Ice cube. Whatever the fuck. Ice cube. I think. Yeah. It was ice cube. He looks, he looks just like Vin Diesel. It was fucking weird. It was so weird. It was ice cube. But yeah, but, but it's the first, the second one's called like too fast, too furious. I mean, that's not like, I don't know. I guess Tokyo drift. That doesn't even have a number. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.

[01:11:16] So he, he didn't come back in until it was called fast and furious. Um, so not the fast and the furious, but fast and furious. And then since then, you know, it's had their own. I'm supposed to be somewhere and actually keeping score. I'll only come back if you take out all of the, the, I mean, he may have, you got it. Like, okay. Paper really hard. He may have abandoned that, you know, like he's just staring at the point. Like, is that a, the, I'm out of here.

[01:11:48] I think he could have abandoned that. Like, you know, like, Hey, cool. I'm not going to do that anymore. You know, but that definitely was a thing I remember reading about early in his career. No, some, some guys are like that, but it's just like, I don't know, man. He was the voice of the iron giant. Until you make enough money. And it's just like, I bet, I bet around that time he had a hell of money though. What there was, what fast and the furious was like 99 or 2000.

[01:12:16] And then pitch black was around that same time, I believe. And then triple X was like 2001 or 2002. Yeah. Um, he did that one Xbox 360 game wheel man. Probably had a good amount of cash from next. His face is all over that fucking thing. And so that's a, that's a fucking deep cut wheel man. Three Xbox 360. Look it up. Wasn't that a, uh, was that a technically a continuation of the driver series? I always confuse that for that. You know, it seems similar, right?

[01:12:45] But I, I thought I've had the same thought before. Didn't triple X had the Bush song, right? The soundtrack. Um, had the Bush theme song. Don't, you know what? How dare you? How dare you? This is what, how dare you? How dare you? He can do whatever the fuck he wants on his super ghost. I didn't say he couldn't look shit up. I just made fun of him. That's all. No, I'm not going to do it. You do what you do. Whatever the fuck you want. That sounds right.

[01:13:14] We say Bush song. You mean like glycerine song? No, not glycerine. No. This would be way after that. Machine Head. That's the same album. It was a song for the movie. It wasn't like an existing song. Triple X by Bush. Yes. It's called Triple X. Yeah. Nevermind. Anyway. It's okay. It's okay. No, it's not. I'll remember from Triple X. I don't know what to say other than, okay. I'm leaving. I'm out of here.

[01:13:44] Peace. This is the show. Sex. All I remember from Triple X is Vin Diesel, sunglasses, big fur coat, drives a car off a bridge. Bam. Triple X. Movie done. Yep. Wasn't it rated PG-13? It was called Triple X. I hope it was. What are we doing here? I'm not seeing Bush in the, oh, wait, wait. The tweaker remix of the song Adrenaline by Gavin Rosdale, lead singer of Bush. Oh, it's him solo.

[01:14:14] Yeah, this is solo, dude. Okay. He left Bush behind, dude. It was him solo. He trimmed that bush and he went solo. He trimmed. As he should. It didn't save his marriage, but he did trim that bush. I'm going to get a Bazinga soundbite every time we make a cool joke. Oh, my God. They, okay, new million dollar idea. Whack-a-mole, but instead of the moles, it's Sheldon coming up and saying Bazinga,

[01:14:40] and you can just bash his fucking brain apart with like a hammer. That machine's going to need a lot of repairs. People are going to beat the shit out of him. You got to, like, I don't know, steal titanium, that machine or something. I don't know. Do something. That's right. Bush had broken up by that point. It was him solo. They're back though. Just so you know. They are back. Yeah. Well, they're back, but are they? I mean, they never left. In my heart, they never left. But, yeah.

[01:15:11] The get back together stuff is not good in my opinion. The album title is I Beat Loneliness was the most recent album, January of 2025. Hell yeah. Yeah. I skimmed it and it was like, nope. Ever since they got back together in what, 2011? I was like, nah, this ain't good. Yeah, that's a weird time to come back. Like, the other day, I was, for no reason, I was just singing that one Trapped song.

[01:15:41] Headstrong. That's the only Trapped song. Exactly. I was singing that song and my wife was like, what other songs does Trapped sing? And I was like, I don't know. And then, turns out, they've been making me, ever since that one song came out, they're still putting out albums on a consistent release schedule or whatever. So, they just put out a new album in 2024. And, uh, it's not good. Tried to report that it's not good. Didn't the whole band leave because you became a trumper?

[01:16:10] Like, what happened to the Boss Tones? Mighty, Mighty Boss Tones? Because the entire band, like, left because he turned into such a fucking prick. I feel like that's also Trapped. That could be Trapped. It feels like Headstrong could be a very Donald Trump song. I'm sorry to everybody who's a Trapped fan out there in the audience. I thought you were going to say Donald Trump fan. I was like, fuck them. I was like, what are we? I don't want you to give me permission for me to be on this show.

[01:16:38] If we're a Donald Trump fan. That's a Trapped fan. Like, I don't... Nobody's a Trapped fan. Don't worry about it. Nobody is. I remember a friend letting me borrow his iPod, like, forever ago, back in, like, middle school or high school. And there were... Fuck. So, there was Headstrong by Trapped. There was... I'm trying to think of, like, all the Jim Bro songs that were around back in the day.

[01:17:08] That one Three Days Grace song. The one Seether song. Oh, Lord. All the trash rock from that era makes me insane. I hate that shit. Oh, what was that one? That's, like, the worst time. What was it? Animal I Have Become. There we go. What Seether song, though? Remedy. Oh, Jesus Christ. And then there's that one Atreyu song that everybody loved off of Guitar Hero. And that's a big thing, too. That really grinds my gears.

[01:17:35] Stop playing Killing in the Name by Rage Against the Machine just because you know it from Guitar Hero. Stop it! There's better Rage Against the Hero songs. Yeah. Guitar Hero 2. Back when they did the poopy covers of all the songs because they didn't want to pay for the licensing. I only did the... I only really played Rock Band and stuff with my friends, so I didn't really play... I mean, like, obviously it was a weird Guitar Hero because you couldn't, like, ignore it, right? But I don't remember all the songs in there. The Rock Band songs I remember because I sang. All my friends wanted to play the instruments.

[01:18:04] I was like, okay, I'll sing. I didn't sing well, but I sang. So, I remember those songs. I remember the lyrics to songs that I never thought I would because of that stupid fucking game. So, yeah. I'm not the big music person to Andre Chiguren, but I played the Guitar Hero games when they came out on Wii all the way through Metallica, and they had a nice set on there. And then I stopped because I think that's enough fucking Guitar Hero. They didn't think so.

[01:18:33] They kept pumping them out, but I thought, like, two or three of them on the Wii was enough. And then... Oh, yeah. And then... But they kept shitting them out. Band Hero. DJ Hero, too. Did we have, like, the... You put the Wiimote in the guitar, right? Or... Yeah, that's what I thought, yeah. Oh, man.

[01:18:59] There was Guitar Hero Metallica, Guitar Hero Aerosmith, Beatles Rock Band. Beatles Rock Band, I remember. There's another one. Rock Band Green Day, my boy. I can't think of it. Green Day. That's right. That's what it was. Green Day, yeah. I wanted Rock Band Pearl Jam so fucking bad, and they never did it. That's the one I wanted so bad. That would have been good as fuck. Oh, I wanted that shit. Get Rock Band trapped, and you're just playing that strong. One song.

[01:19:27] It has one song on the disc. You won. They did... Here's a million dollars. Through, like, the Rock Band, like, store, they did release albums on there, because, like, there was a No Doubt album I remember getting, because my wife liked No Doubt. But they had, like, Doolittle by the Pixies, like, the whole album. So, like, you know... Oh, yeah. They may have had, like, a bunch of Pearl Jam songs available, just not its own independent release for, you know, people to do. But, yeah. Great. Great.

[01:19:55] The Beatles Rock Band thing was interesting because of the visuals of it, right? They did the whole, like... They did the whole bit. I thought that was, like, interesting. I'm not that into Beatles, but, like... I thought it was cool that they did it that way. That was, like, the interesting part of it. You want to talk about a bit, dude? Guitar Hero 5? I think it was either Guitar Hero 5 or whatever came after that, or maybe it was World Tour.

[01:20:20] There was one where you play with Kurt Cobain's ghost or something stupid. What? I'm pretty sure... Oh. That's not in bad taste or anything. That sounds terrible. Fucking terrible. Maybe it wasn't his ghost. Maybe it was just, like, him in the game. But you play a song with Kurt Cobain. And then there was another one where you play with... Now I want it to be a ghost.

[01:20:47] I think Jimi Hendrix was also in that same one, which was cool. I think it was Purple Haze. There's somebody else in there, too, that you play. Hayley Williams. She was in it. The drummer from Blink-182 was in it. I forget his fucking name. Travis Barker. Yeah, there we go. Travis Barker drummed on everyone's shit, though. He was just, like... He was out there drumming. Big ol' drum slut.

[01:21:16] Do you remember that weird thing from the early 2000s? It was, like, the guy from Rancid and then, like, Travis Barker and then some white dude rapper. The Transplants. It was a really... Yeah, that was so fucking weird. That white dude rapper's name was Skinhead Rob. Skinhead? Oh, my God. Skinhead Rob. I may or may not have went to their first live performance as a band at the House of Blues Anaheim. That was such a weird fucking record, but I liked it. I didn't go to see them, though.

[01:21:45] Just to be clear, I was a teenage boy who wanted to see The Distiller. Because, you know... I understand. That's all it was. Yeah. Yeah. No, that was just a weird... It was just a weird time for music, and you just got stuff like that, I guess. Skinhead Rob. I'm weird that you remember that. Oh, being a big Transplants fan. Diamonds and Guns was their first big single, but from there, it turned into... Oh, I know that song. Okay. Yeah. It was a weird record.

[01:22:14] I love weird eclectic records like that. I didn't have all his Transplants knowledge in my head still, though. I wouldn't have remembered Skinhead Rob, I'll tell you that much. You ever watch the interviews with Nardwar? Dude, who does those really cool interviews with bands and musicians and stuff? If you haven't, Google him. His name's Nardwar. It's spelled really weird. But he goes into obsessive detail.

[01:22:39] He knows best friends who lived down the street from people when they were growing up and stuff. And so the gimmick always blows their minds by bringing up some obscure records or really weird things from their past they're not expecting. And they're always kind of touching because it's like, oh, man, how did you discover this? I haven't thought about this forever. This dude interviewed the transplants. And before they could get to him, because he's really unique and eclectic the way he asks questions, he was just annoying the hell out of them.

[01:23:08] And they were just basically threatening him with violence. And the interview ended like six minutes in. And he couldn't get to any of his stuff. I'm sure they would have loved him pulling out all these obscure facts about them and their past and stuff. But they were just like, no, this dude's weird. I think this is a joke. He might be making fun of me or something. I'm going to get angry with him first. And skinhead Rob was not a fan of Andre show or something. Well, skinhead Rob.

[01:23:33] Oh, I mean, you've heard enough of the transplants to know, like, he doesn't rap so much as yell at the top of his lungs directly into the microphone. It is like the most forceful rapping I've ever heard. It was so weird. That's I think that's why I was drawn to it. It's just like you have you have the punk. You have this punk aspect. You have all the sampling and stuff. You have Travis Barker. And then you have this guy rapping like this. It was so fucking weird. We need more weird. I think one of the weirdest.

[01:24:02] Well, this is not something I came across, but like every now and again, I'll like head over. I'll go on YouTube music and I'll look up body count for body count. I remember his band. The song where he just he just says body counts in the house body count. And they're just it's just that the entire song over and over and over. That's cool. I do remember that. There have been a couple songs that will come up on on Sirius XM.

[01:24:29] We have Sirius XM, by the way, because we we basically bullied them into giving it giving us like a year for like three bucks a month or something. Anyway, yeah, a couple songs of like a couple of body count songs will come on Sirius XM every now and again. And I'll be like, holy shit, this is good. What band is this? I won't even know. It'll be body count. Like, holy shit. Ice T is great. Like, I like him more, more in body count than I do in Law and Order.

[01:25:02] Yeah, it's Law and Order. It's the U specifically. Excuse me. Excuse me. Just so you know, Skinhead Rob started out as a roadie for bands like AFI and Rancid. So that's how he got apparently into that world with Tim Armstrong and stuff. So it makes no sense. It's such a weird. I loved it because it was so weird, I guess.

[01:25:27] I love weird put together, put together groups like that, whether they're from like other bands already or not. Just it. It always makes for something. And I don't know if it's always good, but it always makes for something. Like Audio Slave. Yeah, I love Audio Slave. See, here's the thing. And this is always my controversy. I do not like Zack De La Rocha as a vocalist. I don't think that's like, that's just not something I want to listen to. And so I've never gotten into Raging as a Machine. That is just not me.

[01:25:57] So you just replace the one thing I don't like with something else. Chris Cornell. Perfect, right? It's perfect for me. But like, I, you know. That's fair, man. And yeah, he basically is just like what you described earlier, just shouting into the microphone. It's a lot, man. I don't want to listen to that for like a whole record, a song or two. Like, I find. But like, I don't want to listen. Like, okay, I get it. You know, I feel like it's my dad yelling it. We get it, Zach. Fuck. Fuck. I just can't.

[01:26:25] I can't listen to like music that is just about that. You know, that's just not. That's just not for me. Did you know the body counts in the house, though? Yes. I did know body counts in the house. Just want to make sure. You know, transplants in the hizzy. Do we say hizzy anymore? We should. Not. We should bring back hizzy. Not. Unironically, we don't. Yeah, I've never. I've never actually said that. Hizzy? Bring back trackballs. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to say that word. Oh, you're allowed. I give you permission to say hizzy. I'm not falling for that.

[01:26:56] You can say hizzy. I promise. Don't. Don't. Don't say any of the words in the hateful aid, but you can say hizzy. This guy over here occasionally gives me permission to say things, and I'm just. I don't know. Whenever I. Whenever I skeet or reskeed something that has, you know, let's say some words, you know. I always. I always post it to the group like you. I give you permission to. To click like on this, and they never do. I will click like, but I'm not commenting further. That's the difference.

[01:27:26] You can. I gave you. Just say I gave you permission. Oh, you should just join the olives chat. There's there's none of that in there. It's just us posting pictures of olives. Just Aaron eating cheese. Yeah. For some reason. You're supposed to be talking about olives. In the olives chat room. You can. You. I mean, you can repeat all my takes about Bioshock Infinite word for word. I'm saying I give you permission.

[01:28:07] Listeners want to clarify. I don't hate all cheeses. I do like some cheeses like pizza and lasagna and shit, but I will not eat mac and cheese. I didn't realize pizza and lasagna were kinds of cheese now. Well, they are now. I meant like, oh, I like lasagna or not fucking lasagna. I like mozzarella. Swiss. Like I like the white cheeses, but not the artificial. Oh, not the artificial like nacho cheese, mac and cheese.

[01:28:36] Velveeta can get fucked. I hate that shit. Kraft singles. What is wrong with what is wrong with mac and cheese? I just don't understand. I don't like the smell of it. I don't like the taste of it. You are a special man. I'm such a fucking alien. I don't know what is wrong. I don't know what happened to me. It's like when people say they don't like something weird. Like, I don't like ice cream or something. It's like, what's wrong with you? Why do you not like ice cream?

[01:29:07] A buddy of mine just hates chocolate with a passion, which is weird to me because I figured like everybody on the planet like chocolate. Unless you're maybe, maybe you're allergic to it. I don't know. Maybe people can be allergic to it, but like, are you a dog? People are allergic to it and I pity those people, but yeah, just like a little Hershey bar every now and again. Just like, like numbing on a Hershey bar every now and again. I'm a symphony man. I love a good symphony. That is my favorite.

[01:29:37] Or a Heath bar. Throwback. Heath is, Heath is good. I've always been, I've always been a symphony person. I can't find a full-sized Heath these days. You can only find like Halloween size? Yeah, I can find the mini ones and the, yeah, the Halloween bags or, you know, it'll be the, one of the ice cream toppings I can get when I'm out, but I can't just go to the store and buy a regular ass Heath bar. Regular ass Heath. Y'all ever get a Heath, a Heath blizzard? Oh my God. Hell yeah.

[01:30:07] That is the best blizzard, if you ask me. For sure. On the topic of candy bars, how's, how's everybody feel about zero? That like zero candy bar? That like nobody, I never see anybody buying or eating. I don't think I've ever seen it. I don't even know what that is. I know what it is. I've never bought one. I've never seen anyone eat one and I'm not going to break that trend anytime soon. I eat candy bars on a daily basis and I am not familiar with zero.

[01:30:36] Zero candy bar. Is it like supposed to be healthy? No, it's, yeah, my camera's not going to show that. It's a candy bar composed of a combination of, of caramel, caramel, peanut and almond nougat covered with a layer of white fudge. So like it looks good and sounds good, but that's just a, it's a MAGA Snickers. It's just a, yeah. It's just a, yeah.

[01:31:06] It's just a white fudge, caramel, peanut and nougat. It's an awful Snickers. It's a MAGA Snickers. Yeah. Okay. Cool. I like a good payday. Y'all like payday? Payday? Oh yeah. Payday. Yeah. We as a society don't appreciate payday enough. Payday is good. Here's the thing though. They don't put us up. They don't put as much salt as they used to. Am I right? They don't. No. That's not as salty as it used to be. Are you thinking about the salted nut rule? Like that's. No, like a payday. Cause it used to have a lot of salt on the outside.

[01:31:33] It used to be that only salt had more salt than a payday. Yeah. I got. Cause I love salted caramel. I don't know. That's why I bring my own salt shaker everywhere I go. Just in case, man. Like. I like my salt salty, bro. Yeah. The salt is not salty enough. I never was a fan because of that. But my compromise is a baby Ruth. You know, sometimes when I want to be filled, like, like enough filling, you know, I'm like, cool. This has got a lot of peanuts in there. I'm going to go for the baby Ruth.

[01:32:03] Whatever. So. Yeah. That's my, that's my healthy alternative. Like, you know what? I don't want to go too crazy with my candy bar. I'll go a little bit of healthy and go baby Ruth here and kind of take it easy. Sounds good. Take it easy with the baby Ruth. I'm going to drive 100 crazy because I've had this conversation with them at least half a dozen times. The best candy bar ever made? The Nutrageous. Because. Oh. It's got the one thing I want that they never do with any other candy bar.

[01:32:31] It's got peanuts and peanut butter in there. Yeah. I'm the freak that likes the chunky peanut butter. So. That's what. I like chunky peanut butter. Yeah. So. That's what that is along with some caramel and this chunky form factor. And it's good. And I can only get it by the box these days off Amazon. I got it. I'm still working through this one I got for my birthday and it's great. But. Wasn't there a candy bar called a chunky? Yeah. That's got. It's like square. It's square.

[01:33:01] And it's got raisins. Yeah. That's why I don't like it. The reason. I don't like raisins. I think there's a Seinfeld joke. Like he has one in his pocket. Like where Kramer has one in his pocket. And he's like oh it's just a chunky. You know. And like somebody's like worried about something else. I was going to say I only know about that from Family Guy. They made some joke about it. About having like a chunky or whatever. I don't know. But the worst thing about the Nutrageous is that. They sell another bar called the Outrageous. Which is the same thing.

[01:33:29] But with Reese's Pieces inside instead of peanuts. I'm like don't be doing that shit to me. No. That doesn't hit. That's not it. I didn't mean to rhyme. That doesn't hit. That's not it. Was that your. Wasn't Nutrageous your nickname in high school? Dre? Yeah. Oh damn. Hell yeah dude. You know. I mean he knows. He knows. You're the legend. To the windows. Windows and the walls. Yeah. Hey.

[01:33:58] Can't be helped. Hey. You got what you got sometimes. I mean what. What can I say? Can't help what you were born with. Oh shit. Should we. It's getting a little late. Should we cap this off with some random recommend data games. And Vamoose on out of here. Sounds good. Random news. Any game you want to recommend to the listeners. Just go on and shout it out.

[01:34:26] You can be as you'd be like as quick or as thorough as you want to be. Who wants to go first? I have to think of one. Because I always. I always come in here and say ape out. I'm not saying ape out for the 14th time. Like I'm not. But it would be the first time you said it on Super Ghost. It would not. Oh. Because it was Super Pod Saga before. That's true. That's true. But I'm not. I'm not. I want to think of something else. I've got one I can wing out here.

[01:34:53] So I've been getting real into Wario Land 3 for like no reason. I think I came across something on Instagram and I was like, okay, shit. I want to play Wario Land 3 now. And I don't remember the last area I was at. But I'm getting real into it. I got real pissed off because I couldn't figure out where the fuck to go. But it turns out I'm just really stupid. And I had to look up a guide to figure out where to go. But it's more of a.

[01:35:21] It's got more of like a Metroidvania type feel to it. Than like Wario Land 4. You'll have to go through each level. Each level has like four chests. There's gray, blue, green, and like red I think. And the chests will have items you need to progress to different levels. And like they'll either open up a path to a new level. Or they'll change that level in some cool way. Like you'll get some seeds that'll grow beanstalks in certain levels.

[01:35:50] And you climb those beanstalks to get further in those levels. Or like sometimes they'll have an item that you'll need. They'll give you a power up like a spiked helmet. So you can break breakable platforms above you. Or overall so that you do a butt slam or something stupid. But yeah, it's a really cool game. The music is pretty fucking good too. Wario Land 3 is pretty sweet. I got one now that we're talking Nintendo.

[01:36:18] It's something that's on the Super Nintendo Entertainment System Nintendo Classics app. And it never came out here originally. But you can play it on our app now. It's called Psycho Dream. Psycho Dream is a very, very bizarre game. It's a platform. It's a side-scrolling action game, ostensibly. But to describe it that way is doing it a huge disservice. I'm not even sure that I can describe what it is. Think of the weirdest anime you've ever seen in the 90s x10.

[01:36:48] This thing is off its rocker. And you can play it for $0 if you have Nintendo Switch Online subscription. So definitely go do that. Yes, it's not in English. But I promise it doesn't matter. This is beyond the bounds of language. So, yeah. I don't even want to describe it. Because I don't want to ruin the quote-unquote surprise. You just have to see it for yourself. Go to this app and play Psycho Dream. Man, I remember when that came out.

[01:37:18] I'm like, I remember hearing about this forever. I'm like, I could finally play this thing. And then I beat it in a few hours. I'm like, hey, let's play it with the other character again. I'm like, okay. I beat it twice in a day. The game's fucking crazy. I remember being so mad on our previous creative endeavor. Because you did both characters. I was like, what character are we doing? You know, because we were going to talk about this. And then you did both of them. And then I was like, why didn't you tell me to do both? Why did you do both? I was very upset.

[01:37:47] You were very upset at the time, yes. You know what? I'm not going to talk about a Nintendo game now. Super or otherwise. It's summertime. We're winding down from summer. I'm going to tell you to go fishing on your computer with Cast and Chill. I've been seeing you playing this a lot on Discord. What is this game? You pick a guy.

[01:38:18] You pick an animal friend to go on a boat. And then you cast and you chill. Sweet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go fishing. It's a beautiful pixel game presentation. You get money for the fish. And you use this money to get better rods and better tackle sets and better boats.

[01:38:45] And there's an old man that's like, hey, there's more fish over here. And there's a better tackle set I keep in the back. You should have that. And I know some of you are like, yeah, I don't want to play on the computer, though, even though you can play passively by letting it just run on its own. I do that a lot. That's why I have hours upon hours, hundreds of them, because it just plays by itself a good chunk of the time. Okay.

[01:39:12] Well, they're releasing it on consoles and mobile in a few months, according to the about screen. So especially mobile, if you're about that passive life where you can just let it fish on its own for a while. But if you're like me and you want them trophy catches, too, because I think I need like two or three more fish out of 50 with the trophy mark next to them. Like they're just taunting me at this stage. You still got to do real fishing on your own. I go this in slightly better detail on our show.

[01:39:40] But yeah, cast and chill. Fifteen bucks. Just go go do it. Cast and chill. I have been I just recently got a Nintendo Switch, too. Um, Roman numeral two. Um, it's a cool the cool two. Um, so like now like a whole world's open. I had a sworn off Nintendo because of my own mistakes I've made in the past. And I was out for a couple of years.

[01:40:07] And so like I finally it's interesting to be back and to like catch up on some like, you know, some Nintendo exclusive games that like I may have missed. So I've been trying to play some stuff. But luckily, after I purchased the Switch, too, is when that UFO 50 announcement came. That was on Switch. So I also don't play on computer or anything. So just from like a comfort standpoint, I need to be away from the space I work in. You know, I can't poop and cook in the same spot. So I've been playing UFO 50.

[01:40:36] I don't need to recommend that to anybody. I'm the weirdo who's just barely playing it for the first time. Um, but, uh, I was also going to go in and get triangle strategy for the Switch. Uh, but then it just stealth released on PlayStation 5 today. So, um, yeah, just a Gamescom announcement, I guess, of some kind. So, um, it was on sale for 41 bucks for the PlayStation 5 version of it. So I decided to get that. I was going to be playing that had I not been on the show right now. So I'll play a little bit of it afterwards to see.

[01:41:05] So, uh, weird to bring it up in a recommendation section. I'm realizing that now, um, I haven't even played a minute of it. So nevermind. But, uh, um, Cairn was like a mountain climbing game that they announced, um, a couple months back on one of those like PlayStation showcases. Um, but there's a demo for it that was free that like I really enjoyed. It was, um, there definitely is going to be like more to it than just climbing, um, like over obstacles and stuff. Like there's, uh, there definitely seems to be like a, uh, some stuff under the surface

[01:41:34] there that looks really neat. Um, but that was like a really cool game. I would highly recommend, you know, at least checking out the demo for, cause it's free to see if it's something you'll like want to try. And ultimately when the game comes out and Hey, there you go. Uh, now you have an idea of what to expect. Okay. I fully endorse. Holy shit. I fully endorse triangle strategy that, uh, I think that's one of my top three tactics RPGs. That game is sweet.

[01:42:02] Aren't there only three tactics RPGs, final fantasy tactics, tactics, hugger and triangle strategy. Are there more? Yeah. Hey, no, this is fire. I don't mean to do that to fire. I always feel like is not quite the same type of strategy. Game is those games are because not cause it's like worse or bad or anything. It's just, it doesn't have like the same, like different mechanics behind the scenes and stuff. That's all. Oh, I'm sorry. It's not tilted a certain way. No, no, no.

[01:42:32] I genuinely mean that like, like advanced wars and fire emblem to me are more like strategy games, but like not in the same like strategy RPG, like world that I, I throw that into it. That could just be a personal bucket. And I don't know. I know shade on fire. I mean, I loved like, um, what was the DS one? Um, or maybe it was 3DS awakening shadow dragon and the blade of light. No, no, it wasn't that one. I think awakening that's the original. No, that was what was on DS too. Okay.

[01:43:01] I think it was just called shadow dragon on DS. I put tons and tons of hours into that one. And then when I put my 3DS in a washing machine and I swore off Nintendo, I didn't get to play anymore, but I'm excited to come back and play more fire emblem to catch up on it. But, uh, yeah, I just no shades of fire emblem. I just, I, I didn't knock it because I didn't include it on that list because it's only because I consider it like a different style of strategy game in my mind for no other reason than an arbitrary definition in my own personal little bubble, which means nothing.

[01:43:30] That's fair. That's very fair. Like final fantasy tactics, tactics, ogre triangle strategy. They're, they're much meatier games than like, uh, then like fire emblem or even like shining force. Like there's, Oh, I don't know how to explain it, but yeah, they're, there's way meatier, way chunkier games than, than those. They're also faster paced.

[01:43:56] Like fire emblem, you can play like at a quicker pace than you can some of those other games, um, which is, you know, a benefit at some points, especially on a mobile situation, you know, on the go and everything. Yeah. Shining, shining force plays out slow, which is fine. I mean, I don't mind the pace, but yes, for sure. This is where Steve omits how much time he spent playing three houses and, uh, moves on to the next thing.

[01:44:26] Which is ending the show. Yeah. That's it. That's the show, everybody. We're getting out of here. Uh, make sure to go check out all of our stuff. Super ghost dot site. Maybe next week, Jerry, Beth and Greg will come back onto the show. Who knows? I don't know. I mean, I'm sure they will. I'm just joking. Um, who knows? Go check out fine time. Their show rules. Uh, it, your, your link. It's like fine tie dot me. Isn't it?

[01:44:56] Yeah. F I N E T I dot me. Yeah. Or you had to look them up on blue sky. Same with all Darren stuff. Go look up pixels and polygons or Darren's own personal one on blue sky. Go look up all this stuff. Cause his show is awesome too. The little bite sized episode. I keep doing this like all the time now. Watch out, proud boy. And, uh, that's it. Everybody say bye. Bye. Bye. Bitch.